Alternative to Dignics 09C

[mamedium]

Are you over 2200 or know a lot of people who are? You might be surprised how unaware many high level players can be about small details of equipment like this.

Hitting harder seems to me another way of saying "full activation of the rubber".

i am 2250 and yes i know quite a few high level players. to be fair not all of them are strictly specific about equipments

full activation is more about technique, not physical strength, as you might or might not aware

rubbers have different throws based on their sponge and pips combination. i was taught to choose equipment based on techniques, not the other way around

so, how to fully activate the equipment? only by proper training, not by hitting hard

hope that helps

 

[Creek]

Nuzn 55

 

[Hurricane AON]

Found the 'Gold' rubber from Xiom: Vega China+. It plays like a D09C at 80% capacity but costs 2x less. A little less speed, but the value is insane.

 

[Zezima]

I don't believe that any hybrid rubber, D09c included, can last 150 hours without significant performance drop off that will noticeably affect your play.

The longer I play with d09c the better I play with it. Maybe I should just go to a softer rubber on my fh to begin with 😂

 

[merlin el mago]

Normal, you are softening the sponge.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

The longer I play with d09c the better I play with it. Maybe I should just go to a softer rubber on my fh to begin with 😂

I have suggested that on a few occasions before, but up to you

 

[Scarfed Garchomp]

Found the 'Gold' rubber from Xiom: Vega China+. It plays like a D09C at 80% capacity but costs 2x less. A little less speed, but the value is insane.

Hows the weight?

 

[Federal_Agent]

Rakza Z
H8 booster

 

[SorryForTheEdge]

i practiced against someone who had G09c. can't remember his blade. I remember his ball was quite spinny, but it was slow in a "bad" meaning. (sometimes slower balls are more difficult to play) , as is his shot was supposed to be aggressive and fast but it wasn't... to exaggerate, as if it was a girl playing..

but tbh the guy wasn't very strong, he was lower level than me.

What blade was he using? I tried G09c on Viscaria and it was decent. Maybe on Sardius it can be dangerous

 

[Zezima]

I have suggested that on a few occasions before, but up to you

I just dont know which one. Bh felt like a huge upgrade going from r7 to d09c. So I will stay with that rubber there. I also beat a 300+ player in bh rallies.
But for my fh I don't care if I play with a g1 lets say or a d09c. I do the same mistakes with both. This is also my last d09c sheet on my korbel so I can go with something else.

The ones I am tempted so far are:
T05(prob makes me overshooting worse?),T19(no clue why), hybrid mk pro, r42 (for fun to see how it feels to play a soft rubber)

Going back I wonder if a softer rubber than 47° would be nice to have on my fh. Every >47° rubber felt the same to me feeling wise just varied in terms of spin.

4 years ago I tried someone elses blade and even though he had a hard rubber I could really feel the ball dig into the sponge. It was really easy to spin the ball.

Now I kind of regret never trying out soft rubbers ever.

 

[RajaLoopah]

I've said this many times - Xiom Vega China is underrated.

Unlike the newer hybrid, Vega China is very durable. If you play 6hrs a week, it can last 6 months minimum.

Vs D09C:

• Vega China is more linear
• Max speed is higher with D09C
• Control is better with Vega China
• D09C is slightly more spinny
• It's easier to access power with Vega China
• Vega China is slightly more tacky (if H3 is 10 sticky and D09C is 3 sticky, Vega China is ~5 sticky) --> better for short game and service

Vega China ~$42, D09C $70.

and that the Vega China is heavier than the Dignics

 

[RajaLoopah]

This thread feels like the Tenergy 05 alternative years ago, now what I found out was that there is no direct alternative because certain rubbers cater to certain play styles. There is no true 1:1 alternative, it is like what I said before (years ago), it is just a matter of preference. The Stiga DNA Platinum generation feels nice though

 

[MORTtheORT]

It's amazing how long these threads go on and no one ever mentions G09c... very underestimated rubber... the PR must be bad...

One of my mates uses the G09C and agree, underrated. About 80% of D09C players would be better off with the easier to activate G09C in a match situation IMO.

 

[banbekas]

i am 2250 and yes i know quite a few high level players. to be fair not all of them are strictly specific about equipments

full activation is more about technique, not physical strength, as you might or might not aware

rubbers have different throws based on their sponge and pips combination. i was taught to choose equipment based on techniques, not the other way around

so, how to fully activate the equipment? only by proper training, not by hitting hard

hope that helps

How do you know you are fully activating the equipments? The proper technique?

So if my technique is proper but I hit the ball softly, it will still go fast and fully activate the equipments?

 

[banbekas]

One of my mates uses the G09C and agree, underrated. About 80% of D09C players would be better off with the easier to activate G09C in a match situation IMO.

You’re underestimating the vanity of amateur players. Winning isn’t really the prioritythere, they’d rather lose while going for huge, low-percentage topspin shots. There’s this belief that they can unlock the full potential of high-end rubbers, even if the consistency just isn’t there.

 

[steve888]

The other rubber is battle 2 (39 degrees). A bit slower than D09c but just as controllable, it is quite a heavy rubber though.

 

[NetProphet]

It's amazing how long these threads go on and no one ever mentions G09c... very underestimated rubber... the PR must be bad...

G09C was already mentioned in post #4 😉
I've been using it myself for appx 4 months now and I like it. It replaced my D09c and is definitely more usable for me than it's harder big brother.
It's not so soft that the short game becomes too difficult (like I find with T19 for example) so the adjustment there was quick and if it creates less spin or is slower than D09c then I haven't noticed because I wasn't getting the max from D09C anyway.
So all in all I second all D09c proposals unless the OP is looking for something that's actually faster.
In which case I'd suggest boosting the Dignics 09c.

 

[DBsystem78]

The other rubber is battle 2 (39 degrees). A bit slower than D09c but just as controllable, it is quite a heavy rubber though.

The Throw angle is very different from those 2 rubbers I don't think we can compare it

 

[mamedium]

How do you know you are fully activating the equipments? The proper technique?

So if my technique is proper but I hit the ball softly, it will still go fast and fully activate the equipments?

hitting the ball softly meaning you don't have the strength, maybe it's time for you to go back to scrolling on your phone

technique includes knowing how to activate the core power, using legs, hip, upper body and forearm snap. the hand is for controlling the ball. once you have mastered all those skills then you can easily activate any equipments

does that make sense to you?

 

[NetProphet]

Found the 'Gold' rubber from Xiom: Vega China+. It plays like a D09C at 80% capacity but costs 2x less. A little less speed, but the value is insane.

Hey
Whats the durability like on the VC+?
And is the sponge harder or softer that Dignics 09c?