Rubbers for all+ blade (yasaka sweden extra)

[ginny]

Hello ! 3 years of playing, first racket was korbel japan with 2 fastarc g-1, was too fast and not sticky rubbers to perform short wrist movements,
Now I have donic zhang jike new era with bluegrip C2 FH and bluegrip J2 BH, I think this setup is too fast but I like rubbers though, good short game hybrids, I didn't like G-1 at all. I have bad physical form because of my heart and some specific things, and I dont have technique, cant loop backspin balls with both bh and fh.
I got yasaka sweden extra blade 2 weeks ago, heard its good for developing but idk about rubbers, im used to hybrid rubbers because i like sticky topsheet and hate catapult effect from tensors. Bluegrip seems fine to me but they're hard rubbers and would it fit to all+ blade? Im not sure if its good. Maybe chinese hurricane rubbers for development? But i have very bad physique, what to choose? And I also have problems with wrist and hurricane rubbers too hard. I read about rakza 7 or rasanter or xiom but they're tensor rubbers, I play mostly short game and I want to be confident in this aspect

 

[b3N]

Hello ! 3 years of playing, first racket was korbel japan with 2 fastarc g-1, was too fast and not sticky rubbers to perform short wrist movements,
Now I have donic zhang jike new era with bluegrip C2 FH and bluegrip J2 BH, I think this setup is too fast but I like rubbers though, good short game hybrids, I didn't like G-1 at all. I have bad physical form because of my heart and some specific things, and I dont have technique, cant loop backspin balls with both bh and fh.
I got yasaka sweden extra blade 2 weeks ago, heard its good for developing but idk about rubbers, im used to hybrid rubbers because i like sticky topsheet and hate catapult effect from tensors. Bluegrip seems fine to me but they're hard rubbers and would it fit to all+ blade? Im not sure if its good. Maybe chinese hurricane rubbers for development? But i have very bad physique, what to choose? And I also have problems with wrist and hurricane rubbers too hard. I read about rakza 7 or rasanter or xiom but they're tensor rubbers, I play mostly short game and I want to be confident in this aspect

If you love hybrid rubbers, don't like catapult too much, don't like heavy or hard rubbers and are looking for a 'learning rubber', you could try Glayzer 09c.
You've set yourself quite a narrow set of parameters!
The AVX Purot or Pronte rubbers could also work well if you're able to get them.
But Glayzer 09c seems to fit your description.

 

[DBsystem78]

I think you can try "hybrid" chinese rubber like Loki Arthur China , Yinhe big Dipper, Rxton 7 or 9 they are easier to play than sticky chinese rubber like hurricane 3 and have better base speed without too much catapult

 

[firetack]

Currently using Avalox 550 all+ with Sauer and Troger Secret Flow 1.8 sponge,does everything well.Plenty of speed /spin on topspin and very good short game pushing /serve return,more spin on serves than with my previous T05.The tack on the rubber picks tha ball up better than the hybrids, has good longevity and doesn't fade during matchplay,much better at lifting underspin
I did put 1 layer of Falco long on it around 5 months ago that should have faded now.
Not sure if the speed of your blade is near to the Avalox ,this is on the top end of all+ close to off- imo

 

[DrFA]

Hurricanes demand lot of topspin technique for a good control, don't go for those.
As you're in developing stages, I'd say Yasaka Mark V will be a suitable option. Otherwise softer version of R7 would work for you (haven't used it personally but got plenty of recommendations).

 

[Lazer]

Hurricanes demand lot of topspin technique for a good control, don't go for those.
As you're in developing stages, I'd say Yasaka Mark V will be a suitable option. Otherwise softer version of R7 would work for you (haven't used it personally but got plenty of recommendations).

Don’t mention the ”M” word, people around here will crucify you for it. 😉

Cheers
L-zr

 

[Tyce]

I agree G1 is not good for when you don't have a lot of power (neither do I)

I would consider the softest versions of the Bluegrip (so C3, J3) to slightly tone down the speed and bring it more in sync with the blade.

If you do change your mind on non-sticky rubber, I would suggest Rakza 7 soft, Rozena, and the Tibhar Aurus series.

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

i recalled a long long time ago when I was just starting out; I used Stiga All-Round Classic and two pieces of neo-Hurricane 2 mid hard ( aka 39 degree DHS hardness scale ) and it was fantastic.

If Yasaka Sweden All+ is anything like Stiga all-round, perhaps you may consider hard tacky rubber.

 

[Archosaurus]

Don’t mention the ”M” word, people around here will crucify you for it. 😉

Cheers
L-zr

For good reason: suggesting a beginner pays 2-5 times more for a mediocre older generation rubber with a relatively difficult touch game is crazy.

They could get something much more modern and representative of equipment they would move up to for typically half the price, although sometimes even a quarter if they shop around on AliExpress etc.

+1 for dense linear sponge Chinese rubber, perhaps in a slightly softer sponge variation just for more feel.

 

[DBsystem78]

The series volant phoenix is interesting as well from double fish but for me the better price for quality will stay the loki arthur china

 

[d3nium]

What about C1 instead of G1? It's not a hybrid but it's still got loads of control and isn't that catapulty, and it's easier to play with than G1.

 

[Tyce]

What about C1 instead of G1? It's not a hybrid but it's still got loads of control and isn't that catapulty, and it's easier to play with than G1.

My personal experience with G1 vs C1 is both are equally annoying to get through the topsheet, but where G1 actually rewards me when I do, C1 feels weak and my power is just fizzling out.
If you don't like the topsheet of G1 and its gear-shift character, don't bother with C1

 

[po-stit]

Go for the tibhar Hybrid Mk. Not bouncy, plenty of control and plenty of power and easy to play.

 

[Federal_Agent]

Rakza Z or H880 ⚡️🏓⚡️

 

[Lazer]

For good reason: suggesting a beginner pays 2-5 times more for a mediocre older generation rubber with a relatively difficult touch game is crazy.

They could get something much more modern and representative of equipment they would move up to for typically half the price, although sometimes even a quarter if they shop around on AliExpress etc.

+1 for dense linear sponge Chinese rubber, perhaps in a slightly softer sponge variation just for more feel.

Touch sensitive ??? Not at all. It’s great for an all rounder on a little faster blade.
A bit expensive för what it is, but there is a reason why it’s still a top seller in Japan…

Cheers
L-zr

 

[Archosaurus]

Touch sensitive ??? Not at all. It’s great for an all rounder on a little faster blade.
A bit expensive för what it is, but there is a reason why it’s still a top seller in Japan…

Cheers
L-zr

Compared to a lot of cheap tacky rubbers, I would say it's pretty touch sensitive.

It's a top seller in Japan because Japanese are very superstitious and like tradition. The country looks identical to how it looked in 1926 in most of the country, the cars are just newer. It's just how they are.

Of course it's not a bad rubber, but you can get better now IMO.

 

[Lazer]

Compared to a lot of cheap tacky rubbers, I would say it's pretty touch sensitive.

It's a top seller in Japan because Japanese are very superstitious and like tradition. The country looks identical to how it looked in 1926 in most of the country, the cars are just newer. It's just how they are.

Of course it's not a bad rubber, but you can get better now IMO.

You can get almost as good cheaper, but then you have to take in account that it has one of the longest lifespans (if not the longest) in the industry. It doesn’t have much catapult, but excellent grip.
If it was a little bit tacky I would probably use it myself. It’s actually my going back to basics reset rubber that I use sometimes. I tried several Chinese variants yes they are cheaper but not better.

Cheers
L-zr

 

[Archosaurus]

You can get almost as good cheaper, but then you have to take in account that it has one of the longest lifespans (if not the longest) in the industry. It doesn’t have much catapult, but excellent grip.
If it was a little bit tacky I would probably use it myself. It’s actually my going back to basics reset rubber that I use sometimes. I tried several Chinese variants yes they are cheaper but not better.

Cheers
L-zr

You can't have excellent grip and excellent topsheet durability. Especially not with a 50~ year old design, although I'm sure the compound has changed over the years.

If it didn't have a mythical status, nobody would be saying magical things like this.

 

[Tyce]

Had they called it Mark 7 instead of Rakza 7, Mark V would have been dead by now.

 

[Lazer]

You can't have excellent grip and excellent topsheet durability. Especially not with a 50~ year old design, although I'm sure the compound has changed over the years.

If it didn't have a mythical status, nobody would be saying magical things like this.

But it does… There are more grippy, more catapulty etc… but Mark V is the Jack of all trades it does everything good and is master of nothing , but that was not the point…

Cheers
L-zr