3 New Andro Rubbers

[Fantastic_Muffin_D]

yes they decided to release this after i just bought 3 sheets of Andro C53. Nice, well play.

 

[Airoc]

yes they decided to release this after i just bought 3 sheets of Andro C53. Nice, well play.

If C53 is good for you then Chintac might not be the right choice for you anyway.
It is stickier and less dynamic and overall more of a "middle-class" rubber than one that is in the top range (which C53 was for andro pro players before the introduction of NUZN, and for some probably is).
You really have to put in the effort to make these rubbers work, way more China style than any of the other hybrids like NUZN, HY-Q or C Rasanter.

 

[Airoc]

That said, i've come to the conclusion that Chintac is not for me either.
If someone is interested in black 57s max or red 52s max let me know.

 

[Pidoa]

Im waiting for mine, should be here in a couple of days. I bought 52s black max. Gonna use it on my vci with nuzn 50 on bh

 

[Airoc]

Gonna use it on my vci with nuzn 50 on bh

That should be interesting. I think the NUZN is the most Tensor-ish Hybrid, and Chintac is very probably the stickiest ESN yet. Standing by for experiences

 

[Fantastic_Muffin_D]

If C53 is good for you then Chintac might not be the right choice for you anyway.
It is stickier and less dynamic and overall more of a "middle-class" rubber than one that is in the top range (which C53 was for andro pro players before the introduction of NUZN, and for some probably is).
You really have to put in the effort to make these rubbers work, way more China style than any of the other hybrids like NUZN, HY-Q or C Rasanter.

C53 is for my BH, on the FH im playing H3 blue sponges. However, the boosting stuff on the H3 is so much a hassle (it took 1 weeks experience to get it right every time the feeling i want), so considering this chintac 57, i might be wrong,

 

[Matt Hetherington]

Has anyone tried this and golden tango with any comparisons?

 

[Airoc]

so considering this chintac 57, i might be wrong,

I don´t know enough about the real Chinese rubbers, but from what I know I think that you´d need to boost Chintac if you boost the Hurricane. It is way less lively than the Rasanter. But worth a try for sure.

 

[Airoc]

If someone is interested in black 57s max or red 52s max let me know.

That´s done.

 

[belllfador]

Waiting for the 52.5, red, 2mm. Hoping for H3 alternative for the hot summer. Vega China is just too different.

 

[Koichi]

Is there someone who has tried the rubber and would be willing to give a little info about how it plays? What rubbers it could be compared to etc.
I'm currently bouncing between hybrid rubbers like j&h c55, k3 and Chinese rubbers (h3n) but I want something that feels similar to a Chinese rubber without the boosting

 

[belllfador]

Waiting for the 52.5, red, 2mm. Hoping for H3 alternative for the hot summer. Vega China is just too different.

Chintac 52.5 is on my table: red, 2mm, measured 53 degrees shore O. No indication of factory boost. 170x170mm square, 73g with the sticky cover and 65.5g without. Sponge is dense and feels death and slow. The topsheet is slightly sticky with impressive friction on brushing, more than XVC, more than H3 in the hot room. Topsheet geometry and hardness are similar to XVC - pips are a bit denser than H3, a thicker topsheet. I will test it when my LP arrives, but my fear is that will be too soft for my FH. The low weight is a nice surprise.

 

[victormanriquey]

I hope I can test this soon, degrees like they should be similar to the joolas, we'll see how they perform

 

[latej]

Is there someone who has tried the rubber and would be willing to give a little info about how it plays? What rubbers it could be compared to etc.
I'm currently bouncing between hybrid rubbers like j&h c55, k3 and Chinese rubbers (h3n) but I want something that feels similar to a Chinese rubber without the boosting

So, this is my 2nd day playing with the Chintac 57S. Actually the setup is new, and there are much more important things than the Chintac ;-)

Anyway, let's try to be factual for a moment. The rubber is nicely tacky, can lift the ball for a second, cut weight for 158x150 blade is approx. 51g, which is good for its hardness. The hardness is good, it doesn't bottom out, the top-sheet is really nicely elastic, and can produce quite good spin on serves. Good control for blocking due to hardness.

Now, let's be not factual. What I don't like is the low throw when I put power in. The top-sheet is too weak/thin for me. I had so many balls over the net out, in different situations... I dislike it less than I dislike the STN, also low throw, but not as nicely elastic as the Chintac... In compare to Tronix ZGR it can produce more spin, but if I had to choose, I'd pick the Tronix ZGR, because of higher throw in power spins... Now, as I have woved to try to play the season not with H3/R9 on the FH, I think I'll try the Xiom C57.5. I know C55 is the perfect rubber with bad durability... The D09C is also OK, it's just overpriced... So this is my dump of 2 days ;-)

Well, not completely. The Nuzn 48 is great on the BH. I really loved Glayzer on the BH. The Nuzn 48 is slightly firmer, slightly more grip and spin, but due to hardness still very good control. Definitely I don't need Nuzn 50 on the BH... I really like Nuzn 48 and I could get it for a good price... If that remains, I'll play with it the season... So this was positive ;-)

And the blade is fantastic. Sergio is a genius. The Sagitarius A* of blade making.

 

[Scarfed Garchomp]

Definitely I don't need Nuzn 50 on the BH... I really like Nuzn 48 and I could get it for a good price... If that remains, I'll play with it the season... So this was positive ;-)

To me N48 was not just a softer N50 like R45 is a softer R48, the topsheet is different between N48 and N50 & N55. I feel N50 topsheet is softer and grippier than on N48, to me N48 moreso resembled a modernized Fastarc G1, whereas N50 was more reminiscent of a newage hybrid such as Bluegrip J3 or V15Sticky

 

[Yxoons]

So, this is my 2nd day playing with the Chintac 57S. Actually the setup is new, and there are much more important things than the Chintac ;-)

Anyway, let's try to be factual for a moment. The rubber is nicely tacky, can lift the ball for a second, cut weight for 158x150 blade is approx. 51g, which is good for its hardness. The hardness is good, it doesn't bottom out, the top-sheet is really nicely elastic, and can produce quite good spin on serves. Good control for blocking due to hardness.

Now, let's be not factual. What I don't like is the low throw when I put power in. The top-sheet is too weak/thin for me. I had so many balls over the net out, in different situations... I dislike it less than I dislike the STN, also low throw, but not as nicely elastic as the Chintac... In compare to Tronix ZGR it can produce more spin, but if I had to choose, I'd pick the Tronix ZGR, because of higher throw in power spins... Now, as I have woved to try to play the season not with H3/R9 on the FH, I think I'll try the Xiom C57.5. I know C55 is the perfect rubber with bad durability... The D09C is also OK, it's just overpriced... So this is my dump of 2 days ;-)

Well, not completely. The Nuzn 48 is great on the BH. I really loved Glayzer on the BH. The Nuzn 48 is slightly firmer, slightly more grip and spin, but due to hardness still very good control. Definitely I don't need Nuzn 50 on the BH... I really like Nuzn 48 and I could get it for a good price... If that remains, I'll play with it the season... So this was positive ;-)

And the blade is fantastic. Sergio is a genius. The Sagitarius A* of blade making.

2.0mm or max? I think 2.0mm is way too thin for a sticky rubber that is meant to hit hard with.
I’m surprised they would even offer it in such a thickness, if they want to compete with Chinese rubbers.

 

[latej]

To me N48 was not just a softer N50 like R45 is a softer R48, the topsheet is different between N48 and N50 & N55. I feel N50 topsheet is softer and grippier than on N48, to me N48 moreso resembled a modernized Fastarc G1, whereas N50 was more reminiscent of a newage hybrid such as Bluegrip J3 or V15Sticky

I only had a couple of hits with N50 black... What I wanted to say is just that for my BH I don't need harder sponge than what is on N48... The G1 - I don't like, excellent rubber but not for me.

2.0mm or max? I think 2.0mm is way too thin for a sticky rubber that is meant to hit hard with.
I’m surprised they would even offer it in such a thickness, if they want to compete with Chinese rubbers.

Max. Always max on FH ;-) My issue is not with the sponge though... Anyway, it's just my feeling, someone else can really enjoy that rubber...

 

[AKIOO]

I bought the Andro Chintac 57S Version

Glued it on Friday before the training, during the training I could feel the 'tackiness' it could not lift the ball but I was feeling nice tackiness on it, rubber was not fast it was slower than H3 NEO Provincial 40 but it was really having nice feeling on the shots and a lot of control.

Today on training, the rubber lost all the tackiness it had and become way way faster and just hard - definetly not what I have expected as someone said here it's the 'tackiest' hybrid.

I am not sure if all hybird rubbers are losing the tackiness that fast? But for me spending that money to just have a hard rock after one training it's a bullshit.

 

[Airoc]

To me N48 was not just a softer N50 like R45 is a softer R48, the topsheet is different between N48 and N50 & N55.

The interesting thing is indeed that for NUZN 45 and 48 Andro didn´t just use a softer sponge for the same topsheet and call it "FX" but designed different rubbers, with a few features altered, hence the lower price.
With Rasanter you can see looking at the sponges that there´s also a difference between 45 and 48. Whether that is causal for the difference in hardness or an added property I´m not sure.

 

[Airoc]

Today on training, the rubber lost all the tackiness it had and become way way faster and just hard - definetly not what I have expected as someone said here it's the 'tackiest' hybrid.

Sounds strange to me and I can´t confirm this for the ones I played with, but it´s a disappointing experience for you for sure.
They should become a little livelier, "worn in", as is typical with Chinese/China style rubbers.