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This is standard advice, but I do wonder whether this has something to do with non-topspin oriented styles not doing as well as perhaps they could in competitive scenarios. Why should every player start in this way and only then after a few years switch to an alternative style, when every year...

I'm a big fan of Spinlord Tiger as a beginners rubber. It's cheap and has very good control and is fast enough to develop an attacking style game but is a couple of notches down in speed from things like Tenergy etc. To be honest, it's fast enough that you might never want to upgrade!

Yes, but would you agree that a ‘naturally’ defensive player would have more fun playing in that style, rather than trying to play the role of an attacking player and go against their natural instincts? I’ve seen players that train as attackers but then when put in a match situation their...

Maybe try looking at it from a different perspective; perhaps its actually a way of preventing every child from forcing themselves into a attacking two-winged-looping style of play due to peer pressure etc. It's very hard to teach a player to play contrary to their instincts, and there will...

Blocking and top spin drives from close to the table (modern SP's are spinny enough to put some topspin on the ball) would be the strategy with SP's, I think. Hit through the spin that the looper is giving you, and stand your ground close to the table (even though you know that that will result...

Sorry for changing the focus of the topic, but this is one of the reasons why I don't think short pimples get enough attention. A close-to-the-table speed-based game is literally what SP's are made for!

Yes, I agree that the men's game is overwhelmingly focused on "power topspin"...but we do still see a few players in the top 100 that don't focus solely on that style (Falck and Filus being two examples). I guess the question I'm asking is this; if its possible for modern defenders with LP's and...

I agree. It wasn’t me that turned the conversation to one sided SP, that was Tony…and I only mentioned Falck after Tony turned the conversation in that way. I’ve no intention of suggesting that Falck is evidence that my double sided SP idea might be correct…but Falck is evidence that a...

I don't disagree with any of that. I have never suggested that double SP would be a superior style to double inverted. My speculation was whether double SP could be good enough to get into the top 100 if more people were seriously training in it. Falck may well be on the decline, but he is still...

Except that it wasn't "big talk", was it! What I did was make a tentative speculation that maybe a double SP player could break into the men's top 100 if more juniors were seriously training in that style. And from the outset I openly admitted that my speculation might be incorrect. I've said...

Thanks for noticing! (y)

Tony, I really have no idea what you're going on about now. What "big talk"??? I've not made any big/bold claims on this thread, and I certainly haven't suggested that just because my daughter is a national champion that that gives me any extra credibility...the only reason I even mentioned it...

Thanks for your constructive input NextLevel. The only bit I want to pick up on this this notion of it being "wasted talent". I think that you are probably right in that regards to a large extent. Imagine a hypothetical scenario where say 20% of the global population of serious male juniors are...

Is it really that surprising that in a heated debate where you're attempting to counter my hypothesis, that I would want to highlight the bit where you actually concede that my hypothesis might be correct? Anyway, this is all getting a bit ridiculous now; you've agreed that my hypothesis might...

And I will leave you with this little nugget of information. If you're going to say "I'll leave you with one word", it's better if you don't then follow that up with two words! :ROFLMAO:

Not taking on board what people have said?!?!? I have literally said (on several occasions now) that my hypothesis might be wrong. Why would you think I wouldn't be willing to change my direction by 1 degree when I have literally said that my hypothesis "it's not a notion that I firmly believe...

So you jump straight to calling me a narcissist and a troll in your very first post...but that's you being nice and calm? And if I take offence to that then it's my fault for reading a tone into your posts that isn't there?!? I don't believe I'm still correct...I never believed with any...

When did I ever stipulate that my hypothesis was based on an attacking SP player? I just posed the question of whether a double sided SP player might be able to break into the top 100, I didn't go into details about how those SP's would be used. I'll say pretty much the same thing to you as...

I never said my hypothesis can't be proven wrong. I said my hypothesis hasn't been proven wrong from what I can see. I also never said anything along the lines of "it's just because of this, it's just because of that"...what I said were statements along the lines of "it might be because of this...

Tony, my position is much more tentative that you're trying to make out. I'm not saying "just give some serious training and you will have a double SP top 100 in men's". What I'm saying is that if we had an environment where a lot more players were seriously training in this style from a young...