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On and off the fence? What are you talking about? I made a tentative hypothesis and openly admitted that I could be wrong on it, and then for some unknown reason you got your knickers in a twist over it and started incorrectly claiming that I've been making bold narcissistic claims that I can't...

I don't have any data; that's why what I'm saying is a hypothesis and that I openly admit that my hypothesis might be wrong. If you have some concrete evidence that will definitively settle the matter then please share it...but based upon what you've posted so far it doesn't appear that you do...

The server has neither won the point nor is the ball still in play. The serve was illegal because it contravened rule 2.6.2: "The server shall then project the ball near vertically upwards, without imparting spin, so that it rises at least 16cm after leaving the palm of the free hand and then...

I'm not making threads here to tell everyone that my ideas are correct either! How on earth have you completely misunderstood my position like that?!? I've said on multiple occasions that I'm not claiming what I'm saying is 100% correct; I'm simply postulating a hypothesis. Look at what I said...

Where in post 10 did I state that double SP's could definitely work? Post 10 is almost entirely me responding to Tony and questioning specific claims he made. I don't feel like I've been given evidence based responses to counter my hypothesis, because I don't feel like my hypothesis has been...

But I'm not "believing what I want". I'm postulating a hypothesis and then opening it up to debate. My hypothesis is that it would be possible to get a few double-sided SP players into the men's world top 100 if only a few more people would seriously train at that style. It's a hypothesis...

But the women's game is not my hypothesis, and I don't decide what equipment my daughter uses - she does. We already know that there is more style variety in the women's game and that pimples are more commonplace at the elite level in the women's game. Like you say, Tin Tin is the no1 in the...

So you want me to change my DAUGHTER to double SP's to test my hypothesis that a double SP player might be able to get into the top 100 in the MEN'S game? Think that one through...take all the time you need! :ROFLMAO:

I didn't reject everything you said, and anything I did reject I didn't do so in a rude way. I came back to you with responses that challenged/probed or asked you to substantiate what you said. If you find that rude then I think the issue is with you, not me. I have no "narrative" as you put it...

That's an argument to support the notion that the double inverted is a more effective style of play that using pimples...but its not really an argument to counter my hypothesis, which is that I think it would be possible to get a few double-sided SP players into the world top 100 if only a few...

Wow, no need for rudeness, Tony. I made a post and you responded...I didn't realise I wasn't allowed to then respond to your responses. I assumed that your willingness to engage with my post was an indication that you did in fact have the time and interest to discuss the topic! Please feel free...

But is that because its an inferior style, or simply because there are hardly any players adopting that style to begin with? Let's say for arguments sake that you have one 1-sided pips player for every 50 double-inverted players, then you'd expect hardly any of the 1 sided pips players to make...

The only one I can think of is Falck. But like I said in relation to double SP's, I reckon it would be possible to get a few more into the world top 100 if only a few more people would seriously train at it. You are correct to highlight that there are virtually none at the top level at the...

There was a Swedish youngster called Jonathon Thimon (I think that's the right spelling). He was quite highly ranked as a teenager but I'm not sure what happened to him. He'd be about 24-25 years old now so still young enough to be playing at a high level if he's still active.

I take those points onboard, but I can't help think that it could be a somewhat viable style if more people tried it. Modern SP's can be pretty spinny, and with the plastic ball its a bit less emphasis on spin anyway. I reckon it would be possible to get a few double-sided SP players into the...

Is there anyone that plays this style currently in the men's world rankings? Do we know who the best player in the world is at the moment currently utilising this style? Or is it such an obscure style that there isn't an objective world's best when it comes to the men's game?

But the problem there is that what is or isn't visible from the umpire's position isn't necessarily what's visible from the receiving players position. If the umpire is not in the right position to properly assess whether or not a service action hides the ball from the receiver, then perhaps it...

If the aim to clamp down on 'hidden balls', then I don't think this new proposed rule adjustment is particularly helpful. Why isn't the rule changed such that it literally rules out hiding the ball? For example, why don't they change 2.6.4 to read as follows: 2.6.4 From the start of service...

Take a look at Giant Dragon Submarine.

The problem with that is that if you allow unapproved rubbers at any level, then that level of sport is unregulated and loses credibility. Having stipulations around "affordability" and "as long as they play good" are subjective characteristics, so they are meaningless at giving any structure to...