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@Carl : Most of my issues are linked to muscle conditions from feedback i have received, mostly because long hours on the computer and sleeping posture ... do you recommend any stretches/yoga poses that can fix the neck issues without going to the chiropractor and getting neck adjustments ?

Thanks for sharing your experience, I also saw these videos on Youtube where neck adjustments solve the elbow pain so I will explore this option.

thank you so much @rogerino75 and @tropical for sharing your experiences

Can please provide links to those exercise or describe them ?

Aah ... thats my favorite picture of Ma Long ...I dunno how I missed .. I really should have been paying more attention to this thread !!! My sincerest apologies my dear sir ! I request you to keep sharing these golden nuggets of wisdom in this thread ...

@rainneverever : No body has posted in 4 hours why Ma Long is unquestionably the Greatest of All Time ... come on it feels weird when Der_Echte has the last word on this thread .. his only contribution so far has been to post a Monkey's butt meme !!! I am hereby requesting Der_Echte and...

... no no .. Ma Long is the GOAT ... don't you dare say anymore ...

No understanding ..

little time ... very trumpian and kind of sums up your approach and responses in this whole thread ... long time ... contradiction any body ... ?

Ha ha .. I learnt it from you senpai to get offended when it suits me ! Your claiming you play evenly with guys with 2200 rating USATT does not hold water ... since you have not played competitive table tennis at any level and don't have any evidence to prove that .... the claims you are making...

I really don't get why you are making this personal , none of us are saying that Ma Long is not the GOAT ... he is the closest or one of the closest to GOAT that you can have at this point ... you are fan of Ma Long and you should be happy with that .. all we are saying that there are arguments...

What is your rating in Sweeden , how long have you been playing and what your level ... and don't give us that crap about FH-FH hits ... lets talk about real matches. If you are at any decent level of playing table tennis you would know how much ball affects the game ... you are not arguing with...

btw, I am feeling insulted that that you can call such a respected person in this forum insecure and ridiculous ... much unlike how you were taking offense to my "supposedly twisting your words" , this is a direct personal insult ... can you please apologize to Carl asap ? ... I am demanding a...

Dude you pick and choose the points to argue, the ones you cannot you just simply call them baseless so that you don't have to come up with any argument and you stick to your personal assumption that Ma Long's greatness is unquestionable ... how is that not trolling ... I would suggest you need...

... and the way you argue makes you look like an internet troll ...

... if GOAT is not Ma Long , who is Ma Long ? Please tell me ... is he a sheep , is he a cow , is he a camel !!!! I agree that I don't see very well in both my eyes but I can assure you I felt horns and a small tail when I touched Ma Long... not to mention the unmentionables ... so he has to...

Man - 0 Goat - 1 ;)

My apologies RidTheKid... I had no intention of insulting you ... have a good weekend ! .. peace !

to answer your question on why a hardcore Federer fan says that even his GOAT -ness can be questioned : 1. The only criteria where Roger wins unquestionably is the how beautiful his game is .. which is the same criteria that RidtheKid is bringing up again again to defend Ma Long is the GOAT...