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Have you seen a video of Liu guoliang using it? I have only seen him hitting flat counter hits with the other side of the blade.

Btw do you know who was first to use the reverse backhand topspin? Did a player invent it or was it designed by coaches?

Can the banana flick somewhat replace reading spins? Of course ideally you read the spin but doesn't a heavy spin aggressive flick make it easier to override the spin and still put it on the table?

Do you think that push returns will die and players will go like 90% flick or topspin in the future and push is just an emergency or do you think it will remain a mix?

Btw wasn't the new ball supposedly bad for serves and the short game and good for top spinning the return? So it is quite amazing that he can still dominate with mostly pushing the return.

Wasn't KLH modelled after the swedish players? I read somewhere he was sent to sweden to learn the style of waldner and maybe also persson. Btw was KLH the first notable shakehand player of china? It seems like his success started the end of penhold in china.

I don't think it was bad and he could loop it but he often would play it more passively. His better wing always was his FH by quite a bit. I think waldners power was a little underrated. He was always known for his serves, tricks and blocks but when he was younger (till 2000 or so) he had...

With old school I meant that he is not really radically modern. He is of course an aggressive player with a lot of power and technical versatility and he can do the modern strokes like a flick backhand return but he doesn't do it a lot. His game is more "classic" (as in modern classic of course...

I'm not an expert but could you say he has a more old school style than Zhang Jike or Fan? He can of course attack with his backhand but his returns are pushed more often than the the other two. His backhand is often blocked or moderately spun and generally he prefers the FH. Almost more like...

Wouldn't that style be Wang Hao?

Do you think a guy like wang hao or ma lin could compete today with ma long? Xu xin definitely has a weird style, as you said much farther off the table than traditional penholders. Could the new ball hurt penholders a little because the serves and returns are tamed a little?

Btw why can't the emergence of the penholder topspin save the grip? The penholder grip has been declining for almost 30 years now but when Wang Hao and ma line had success with their new backhand it looked like the grip could make a comeback. And yet it continued to vanish in Asia. Did Wang...

A smash will finish more across the body than a loop, right?

Yeah I could see why the "wrap around the body" finish that works in tennis would take too long to recover in table tennis.

I talked about a rotation around the arms long axis (turn hand palm up to Palm down like when turning a screwdriver). With the tennis players the racket will brush up and then go down again like a windshield wiper https://goo.gl/images/vEvVtN In table tennis it seems like the racket usually...

I probably need to stop mixing up my tennis and table tennis strokes, they seem to be different. There is even a german tennis player who likes to play table tennis in rain delays and he says he uses his left hand for table tennis to not mix up the strokes and get bad habits. The same thing is...

That makes sense. Tennis topspin forehands also were more low to high 30 years ago but now they are using more of a flat arm path and a windshield wiper brushing of the racket by pronation of the arm with a more angled grip to create the spin. I can see why that would not work in table tennis...

Hi guys, I'm dominik and Im new here. I'm a rec player but I used to play tennis competently. I have a question regarding the forehand loop. In tennis there is research showing that internal shoulder rotation is one of the main contributors of racket speed. (like in this excercise) The...