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There's no way to play without hitting into the sponge lol, I'm not sure what that means

It is so interesting to me that in serious TT circles H3N is commonly regarded as probably the least forgiving/most demanding rubber on the market but somehow on the forums the consensus seems to be so different. I've tried seeing all angles of the other argument but still struggle to grasp it...

D09c...sorry...

Believe it or not, the entire forum doesn't exist solely to provide free, sufficiently-justified-to-your-demands, coaching to you. People are allowed to comment on your threads and have side discussions whether you reply to them or not.

OK so if I am understanding right, you are saying that even though both are similar rubbers (and I would say both are high throw angle rubbers), H3N's is low enough that it won't cause mistakes that can't be easily fixed with minor racket angle changes, but 09c's isn't (for FH usage). I don't...

I have always felt that D09c is a rather linear rubber and that is the overwhelming consensus that I've heard about it in discussions with people ranging from USATT 1300 to 2800. Some people like the linearity and relative "deadness" compared to non-hybrids/tackys and some don't. IMO throw angle...

I don't think I ever said there is room for the opinion that when discussing two rubbers that are far more similar than they are different (09c and H3N), it is possible that one could be a "strict and fair teacher" and even beneficial to "force people into good technique" while the other can...

Tag teaming? And when the forum majority engages in "Butterfly bad for beginners / will ruin your life" discussion for the millionth time, that isn't tag teaming? But two people who typically push back on that are the tag team...

But you repeatedly describe H3N which is also a tacky, hard, non-bouncy rubber, as a "strict but fair teacher"? So why does that not apply to 09c? And H3N can't lead to bad technical habits in lower level players because it is demanding and causes "unforced" errors when used by those who can't...

Would be surprised if it isn't JOOLA, and announced soon, to avoid the mess that occurred last year.

That is the Zezima experience. You can only hope that a year from now, he will realize others were right

Outright speed and flat play (punch block, smashing) are definitely relative downsides of 09c compared to other top end modern offensive rubbers especially non-hybrids. Playable, sure, but definitely relative downsides. Every high level player with decent technique knows that 09c relatively...

Damn and I suggested that over a year ago the first time looking at one of your threads. Makes you think...

The other big reason to practice early/peak timing is because in games you will always be a little slower and later than in practice situations. This is true for everybody of every level. So if you practice earlier, during games you can still adapt and get shots on the table while being...

Doesn't seem like anything outstanding in terms of quality to me, and nevertheless doesn't matter when you're missing half of them in your selected 1 minute clip of a drill where you're getting the same ball to the same spot and still missing half. The issue with the consistency remains the...

LYJ had been destroying XP even with the LYJSZLC. He does seem to be in top form right now though.

Watched about 30 seconds - your legs don't provide any power or stability on the loops against push which is why it's inconsistent. Will be even worse in real games when you're forced to move or timing changes. Still zero acceleration or snap in your arm on both topspin and underspin which is...

Need piligrim to assure us this is commercial version Tenergy 09c

Then yeah, 3-4 months is pretty good durability in that situation...

Appreciate the context, but still basically just boils down to the fact that he hasn't settled on something yet.