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I watch a lot of table tennis, I cannot remember a single instance of a match I watched having the scorekeeper actually make a call on the legality of the service. Very often, the scorekeepers often forget the score and need to be corrected by the players. They are also often members of at...

Interesting. Can you show me an amateur or league level match when a scorekeeper has used this ability? And how are they qualified to exercise it? Are all players trained on umpiring matches and do they have to pass exams to apply the rules? Just curious, not saying they have to or have to be.

Umpire or scorekeeper? Most of the time, players rarely fight over scores. The biggest issue is serve legality and that you can often get an umpire to come and resolve disputes if necessary. While it would be cool to have a scorekeeping culture, I don't think the US not having it is the end...

That's why the rules are written in a way to put the onus of avoiding grey areas on the player and the umpire has the latitude to make calls. Since umpires don't exercise that latitude and players are not motivated to change unless they are penalized (and being penalized unfortunately also...

Yes, that's the most distinguishing factor I forgot - until you get used to trying to extend dwell with it, the dwell time is extremely short using whatever technique you may have used for other rubbers.

Very spinny, very fast for a very spinny rubber, very good if you are consistently active and like to put the ball past people close to the table. But if you are someone who wants safety rather than explosiveness, the rubber will sometimes disappoint you. It can also slip at inconvenient times...

These were statements made 9 months ago and my view of Zyre 03 evolved over many threads. I guess that is what happens when people read a post and just decide to focus on it, which is not unreasonable behavior. But again, it was 9 months ago. I even played with the rubber extensively.

He won his match the day before, which was the first time the topic came up.

Maybe because I trust who told me and Fan could have adopted Zyre much earlier if they were wrong?

While I mentioned this in another theead already, it is a bit weird to respond to a post 8 months later as if I was wrong and not consider the possibility that Fan changed his mind.

On Felix and Alexis beating Fan 3-0? Zyre 03 is soon going be renamed Zyre 0-3 (the score you get when you play with it).

Whoever bet on that result and got it right would have made millions.

Truls: they need to bring the Euros to Saarbrucken and use Tibhar tables lol...

Probably to give Darko a good sendoff...

Fan Zhendong, Olympics and World Champion EJ!

Final about to start....

The rumor based on photos is that FZD had Zyre 03 or Zeed 03 on forehand. Maybe he is making @Gozo Zyreruna proud.

Those serves are often already illegal using current rules but no one enforces them anyways.

The game was really ugly when we had hidden serves, don't watch highlights, watch whole matches. Unless you believe the new balls are sufficient compensation (I do not, but I am open to being convinced) in rewarding the returner, it would be a major step backwards.

The final is Montpellier vs Saarbrucken. Will be really exciting. Going to be up and about for that one. Felix vs Franziska, Fan vs Alexis, Truls vs Thakkar. They might move Truls to the #2 and assume that anyone eill beat Thakkar. Or they could play Darko. Whatever happens i am there for it.