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Reference the video subtitles for your claim that the coach is being misrepresented. Not your understanding of the physics. I have quoted the aspects of the subtitles that stated his intent. Stop trying to explain my purported confusion. Quote what the coach said that gives you insight into...

Are there playoffs and if so when?

The relevant subtitles: "Ordinary chiquita is topspin but chiquita swinging sideways, it becomes underspin." There is more commentary that shows that it is difficult to apply the technique to a topspin ball so the technique clearly relies on coming across the bottom of the ball similar to...

Can you please quote the subtitles that support your view given the precise reference I have provided to the video at 4 mins 30 seconds Io 4 mins 40 seconds in and how you are willing to reconcile your position on the intent on blahness and Tony with Coach Meng"s stated intent? Again, this is...

Okay. If you cant read the subtitles, then you can't tell what the video is trying to say unless you speak Japanese so why are you arguing with someone who has read the subtitles and is telling you what the video says in the subtitles? Again this is a separate issue from whether you agree with...

I just gave a clear example. James Z is accusing blahness and Tony of not understanding the video and making up an interpretation that the poster did not intend. https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/producing-side-underspin-on-the-chiquita.31615/post-416959 I just posted to go to 4...

Enjoying the discussion is fine. Does that mean one should lie and troll about the video's intent as well?

At 4 mins 30 seconds in, Coach Meng literally describes his intent is what Blahness and Tony intended (whatever you think of the actual physics). Let's stop this nonsense immediately.

Oh, to me, it was easily one of his best, I can understand the OP. But I also understand other views - some of it is subjective as I really enjoyed the Kanak video and some people would consider that boring. Gauzy also has a special place, using snakes against Adam and showing the difference...

Yeah, when these debates leave the land where we improve our table tennis and enter the land of semantics, it gets really frustrating. All these things are just names for techniques to hit the ball and win points. Does a ball literally have sidespin and backspin and sidespin and topspin...

Maybe, I don't know, I think I have forgotten what it was like to spin with soft sponge since the ABS ball dominated. I feel that stickiness creates the most intuitive concept of spin and most people throw hard enough to use harder rubber on their forehands. My problem with the softer sponge...

MK for me was tough to use on the forehand. Or even the backhand. Likely the sponge hardness and the f was ct I use hybrids already but it felt too slow to me and not powerful enough when I crashed the ball die max effect.

Did you try Golden Tango? Curious what you thought of it if you did.

Collecting some evidence that I prefer Golden Tango when it is less sticky. Played decently with the Cybershape but there is still training to do for sure.

I have a friend (2200) who thinks that the rubber gets spinnier with use and practice. Just pointing out an alternative perspective.

One of the traditional struggles in TT is pushing off the weaker leg I think this directly addresses that.

I put them on a Korbel (still my favorite looping blade), but the blocks were just too hard to perform coming from carbon.

Table tennis is terribly marketed. Many amateurs have shown ITTF what to do (zeio, apacible, ponfgugraahopper, MLFM, Bobrow etc.) but maybe the money isn't there, but they keep acting like they don't have a clue. They need to make the narratives underlying table tennis in Asia accessible in...

Never tried Z2, but with a few exceptions (catapulty, softer stuff), I have usually found ESN stuff more *intuitive* to me than Tenergy for control play, though Tenergy 05 for spin play was the Godfather back then, and my spin game was such a strength that it evened out. But since Dignics 09c...