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The fact that you put "hold" in quotes tells me you know this is a trolling question. Post video of your loops vs backspin and then we can have this discussion. Otherwise, understand that language is full of metaphors and learn from this video (if you ask the video creator questions about...

I can fully accept that he might be the odd exception to the adult learner curve. After all, he claims he has been able to train with high level players almost full time for a year. But I have seen enough people troll and lie about such stuff on the internet that it is best to allow them to...

We all agree more than we disagree. It just became an ego battle because the goalposts changed as someone had argued you had to be fit to be a top ranked player and confused that with that you had to be fit to play high level table tennis. That's partly why I posted the Doran video, the role...

Posting this here as I think it has info that might help people.

Even pros don't do everything, but this is going away from the main question. Topspin is the dominant style but the main thing that the pros do is win matches. What you need is solutions and solutions at one level may or may not work at another level but it is rarely about doing everything...

Everything is relative to level, even Ma Long and Waldner don't topspin all the time. So someone who plays flat will not play flat all the time, but they will use it to make their lives easier. You don't have that blocking option in tennis. Even He Zhi When doesn't block all the time.

Being fit is a factor in chess as well. Very few here would argue that it is necessary to be fit to play good chess. Being fit just helps with a log of things, from breathing to stamina and sometimes strength. But the fitness demands of table tennis are very different from those of soccer or...

From a Nigerian who only played serious TT after being coached in the US, I get told I play a Nigerian style.by people who know Nigerians and I honestly have no clue what that is - maybe because Nigerians often return serves haphazardly and rely on rally skills to save them. More seriously...

It is entirely understandable that if you train with national level players that you don't think there is anything special in the above average amateur level. Hopefully you will share some of your training so we can put your comments in proper context. For the original post, I have provided...

That's the main point - when I say reset, sometimes, it is as simply as being ready to move and making sure you are always balanced enough to move. Since you have built out legs, you can probably do a bit more than most of us who have one leg significantly stronger than the other.

If you reset your feet during warm ups while looping (whether or not you have to move), it will go a good way towards building footwork habits that will help you in TT since just about every movement requires some kind of hopping to be performed efficiently.

I am not that strong a player, but anyone who says I am average is revealing their experience with table tennis.

When you post video of yourself playing, we can have this discussion. My USATT record speaks for itself. I started playing at age 34 and have rheumatoid arthritis. Very few people see me play and think I started playing at an age when most of them had been playing all their lives. You can...

People should watch this match and comment. In case you don't know who the loser is (he currently plays in Bundesliga):

Whether a fitter player usually plays better is a different question from whether a fit body is required to play what most would consider high level table tennis. I doubt you would beat the guy whose video I posted above yet you keep acting arrogantly as if it is a moot point. There are many...

Yes but this is not capturing the whole story either respect to touch play, spin and technique.

Eugene Wang was in the top 100 as was Liang Jingkun before he lost weight. And top 100 is not the point. The point is whether TT is like Tennis or not. It isn't. There is an athletic component but Walxner will beat most of us here even when he is 60 with a beer belly, whether he is fit or not

You are being pretty polite to be honest - correlating table tennis play with physique so strongly can only be done by those who have not played table tennis widely enough.

Nah, this is not quite was NDH is talking about. Some people literally make up stuff with next to no experience with good TT and no serious study of high level play, you have to see them play to know that they are completely inventing stuff. Nobody I know of recently qualifies apart from maybe...

A common mistake is to confuse adiposity with fitness level. Often related but not quite the same thing. And very often, being heavier means you are stronger and that has an effect on TT power.