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One can debate quality of the field but what Jorgic did this weekend is better than anything Tokic ever did. I do remember Tokic having one Euro bronze or silver but that was about it.

Yes we are but comparing him to players who go further in events is not fair since that is partly a function of age. Maybe I read too much into that but Jorgic hasn't played at senior level for that long and he is already in the top league in Germany.

I don't think it has anything to do with giving up, she is now playing a B team schedule with the Hashimotos of the team.

Men, you are as bad as RidTheKid. Whether you like Kanak or not, he is an extremely solid player. So is Jorgic at 21. Kanak is 19.

And age and development has nothing to do with this? You think it is technical? Does Tokic go far in every tournament? What do you think of Kanak Jha?

You mean Darko doesn't have a good forehand? Or just his footwork? Or something else?

I was thinking recently about how similar in some ways Jorgic is to his compatriot, Bojan Tokic. Anyone else see (some) similarities?

Not sure it is a matter of style but to each his own. There is a bias in TT to make things about style when all the Chinese largely did was invest more resources in playing like Europeans. Liang Jingkun in many ways is a Chinese Jorgic just not encouraged to develop thr same way for...

Yet people will list Karaksevic as one of the best backhands ever even though I doubt he ever cracked the top 30.

That is okay. Doing it for even one match is incredible enough for me. And if you watch the match, or many of his matches you can see that his forehand is consistent. That said, so was Gauzy's...

Yeah. At some point fandom is no longer rational. Just like romance.

His backhand winning percentage in that match was what made me give him respect, I thought it would cost him points but I suspect on the whole he made out like a bandit as Yang struggled to chop the ball when his backhand hit the table. We can contrast that to Gauzy's forehand in the same event...

Yeah, you summed it up well. But I still think there is something inconsistent about praising Karaksevic or Kreanga then putting down Jorgic.

When most people speak about best backhand, if we are honest, we are mostly about the spectacular backhand loop. Usually the best backhands nowadays in terms of overall backhand play are just the backhands of the best players and maybe today, there is no real benefit in having a backhand like...

Yeah. Which is why Jorgic beat Ma Te and Gauzy lost to Wang Yang. I know you don't like backhand unbalanced players but at least understand that if what he was doing was so easy, everyone would do it for fun

Yes. It goes back to what you consider a good backhand. It is a matter of opinion. But I think we need to give Jorigic some credit for what he does. Even the CNT gave Dima credit when Dima was obviously an imbalanced but extremely hard working player.

LOL. The fact that you can have more confidence against chop using your backhand than you do using your forehand speaks for itself. The other tact is that he wins the match playing that way against a chopper that most players would struggle to beat. Having the best backhand in the world is...

I thought more people appreciated the level.of difficulty involved in playing a world class chopper by running around your forehand to play a backhand. As in putting the match on your backhand loop vs chop. It is like doing a Simone Biles routine.

I think you are free to post a more spectacular match from anyone you think has a better backhand than Jorgic since to you it is obvious that the other guys have better backhands.

And the other contenders are supposedly more consistent? Or you just remember them from highlights and not actual matches? The point is that Jorgic has a ridiculous backhand at least as ridiculous as any other contender for greatest backhand ever. These debates are for fun. But if Kreanga...