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Ito melting down. High risk high reward.

I wish evidence would change people's minds, but unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work that way.

When it comes to illegal serving, while the ITTF regulations don't make distinctions, most experienced players will tell you that hidden serves are a class apart in their difficulty. But you can see the head thrust on Pitchford's serves. I don't know why you ate trying so hard to deny it...

Give Dima time. They will also go to the lab and look at those Pitchford serves. Dima was very passive on serve return and that shouldn't happen with time to review the match.

Finally, an umpire is doing his job. The guy is flipping the ball so far back that it is hard for Steger to see and you want it it be a fair fight? Really? Just wish they would be more consistent or we could go back to hidden serves. Steger doesn't complain much. He lost that battle a long...

On the basis of Pitchford being British? Or on the basis of Pitchford not actually hiding his contact with his head when he does his punch serve? It's not just Pitchford, many top players do it including Ma Long. And Pitchford dominated the rallies. But Dima relies heavily on serve return.

Pitchford hides his contact with his head. Tough for Dima.

Rosskopf was another player with a great anti-chopper game.

Greatest player vs chop ever is for me Xu Xin. What he does is just ridiculous. I think there may have been a loss to Ma Te that put a blemish but I don't know KLH's record as well as I know XX.

Dima has played in Super League a few times, I wouldn't be surprised if he was once on a team with ZPF.

Even FZD does not play into Pitchford backhand. Why was Ma Long so stubborn?

His game is beyond repair though it begs the question of why would anyone repair such a beautiful game?

I gave you the link. Zeio was just joking that the important matches were already over and the finals were just teammate affairs.

https://bornanblob.blob.core.windows.net/ittf-web-results/html/TTE2824/results_2018-07-29.html

JesperStef, Do you still think the CNT is in major trouble or has mismanaged its upcoming talent? Curious. NL.

And even if they were updated, seeding is usually done in advance of the tournament, not during the tournament and is therefore based on a non-current list at a specified date.

It's one player if the host country has no natural seeds and he is seeded in a bottom seed spot. Otherwise he is seeded where he would have been naturally seeded. Of course that doesn't make it right. But the point is not to act like it recently started happening. And it has happened for...

This stuff has happened in all kinds of tournaments all over the world, including ones like World Cups and WTTC and WTTTC - are you just noticing it for the first time?

I think you underestimate how special ML, ZJK and XX were - they were called the Special Generation for a reason and it turned out right. The problem is that people are spoiled by that dominance, which overlapped with the dominance of WLQ, MLin and WH, and they expect the same thing to happen...

He kept moving the hand extremely late. The umpire could have called it if they were so inclined. If you look at Mizutani for example his serve is much cleaner (if he doesn't try to hide the ball with the head).