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Yinhe Saturn S1 is a new contender here, I'll let you know how it feels when I've glued it in a few weeks time. It's going to replace Big Dipper 5.

I'm 54 and have not been playing for long, so I've been using a Palio R57 at 75 grams for the training sessions after the summer break. It seems better than the Yasaka Sweden Extra that I used from april to July. It's not as fast as an outer carbon blade though.

That sounds nice.

It was around 14$ or 12€ if you prefer that. If it's good I hope to buy more in the 11.11. sale.

I should have my rubber in the coming week, but perhaps I'll wait a few weeks before I mount it.

It's on sale at HWsport on Aliexpress now, so I just ordered to sheets.

It was however very hot and humid in the TT hall that day.

I didn't like the topsheet of the Moon 12 M- when I tested last week on the backhand. I will try it on the forehand next week.

I think I would like to try this rubber, I just wonder how hard the M+ and the H- is supposed to be? Edit perhaps it's something like 37°and 39° DHS.

It did indeed feel very dead, and I think that I had developed a BH-technique with the BD V 39 where I brushed very much and that didn't work with the Moon 12 blue so I need to hit more direct.

The 39 is very hard for backhand use, I just changed to Moon Blue 12 medium-, but I must admit that I didn't like it much in the first test. I guess I'll try the Hurricane 8-80 next.

It says Aliexpress in the post ;)

I just got a Palio R57 blade (the surface looks really nice BTW) and 2 Moon 12 M- rubbers and a black Mercury II rubber delivered from aliexpress. I have the Yinhe Big Dipper V 39° on my backhand now which is way to hard even though I can make an occasional desperate winner ;) So I need the...

I'm contemplating a short pip forehand too and these threads seem to have the same answers. So you can add Spinlord Waran, Friendship 802 SP and Friendship 802-40 (Mystery III) and Yinhe Saturn Pro. The Friendship ones seems to be the default recommendation. ttdd.de have some rather detailed...

Not exactly budget though.

I have Big Dipper V on my forehand too, but my forehand is not good so I'm trying Mercury II now, if that doesn't work I might be tempted to try NUZN 48. I'm 54 and just started playing after 30 years and my forehand is not so good so I actually think I need some help from the rubber.

What about a single layer as the core? I have been contemplating such a blade.

Calculus is the way, I must say as a theologian.

For me as low end intermediate it's seems a way to hard for the backhand in hardness 39 (good for blocking though), and I think I need to brush more on the forehand. But I just started again after 30+ years and need to develop my forehand as I have mostly used my backhand back in the days. It...

I better just eat my words again then ;)