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The upper body also doesn't rotate that much. The FH loop hip rotation is completely different from the BH mechanism like what you said. Bh is achieved by bending the knees differently between legs. A very simple experiment i used before to illustrate, If you keep both knees straight at first...

Nothing to do with the waist - it's all in the hips. Waist is slow af imo. It's another stereotype that you have to do 90 deg rotation for it to count as hip rotation. Against these fast balls (including long fast heavy sideunderspin) you're looking at something like 5-10 degrees hip rotation...

Yeah, the 1st guy resorted to no toss illegal serves to win the match, shame on him! If anyone did this to me I would simply leave my left hand up for much longer to hide my serve too - tit for tat. Those no toss illegal long serves can have some insane spin variation. I already can see...

LP players can use inverted too lol and they can absolutely give you topspin. But the damage is really done by fast nontopspin balls. My dead FH flick is one of such shots which a lot of inverted players dump into the net because they never saw fast nontopspin balls before. Without fast body/hip...

That's the ultimate goal, because a good BH loop structure can deal a decisive attack against all balls, be it long or short, topspin or no spin or underspin, fast or slow, pendulum or reverse pendulum sidespin. The problem is that you never know what is really coming to you, especially against...

I guess the key litmus test that differentiates these concepts is for eg against a long fast heavy pendulum sideunderspin or underspin serve or a sudden long fast push or dead flick, do you need to take a step back from the table to loop it after the ball starts to fall, or can you actually take...

No but eventually you reach the limit of countering (even close table) because if you can only counter and the other person is doing close table BH topspin (反撕) or even countertopspin, you're in a world of hurt because you're gonna get overwhelmed by the topspin pressure - the simplest patterns...

Yes, you appear to be talking about countering, I'm actually talking about full on high quality close table consecutive early timing BH topspins where you want to put a lot of pressure on the opponent. Imo it is possible to do it without much body use, but the quality with the lower body added...

I would seriously doubt you did a full arm movement with that frequency. I'm not talking about half strokes but full TT strokes - you have to match the amount of distance between the arm movement and how much the arm moves with a single hip rotation for an apples to apples comparison. I don't...

They're using the exact same mechanism just a smaller version of it - obviously the video is showing the mechanism so it has to be exaggerated, but if you understand the mechanism you can dial down the movement easily but not the other way around. I actually can do hip rotations at very high...

Tbh I learnt a lot of disgusting shot patterns from the LPers lol - although i do hate playing against them (even when I win i get a bad taste in my mouth). Imo there's a lot of unstated assumptions that a lot of inverted players adhere to when they play, and a lot play without bothering to...

I know ppl who have different structures between full BH loops and close table countering (Truls, Aruna, even Ma Long to some extent come to mind) and it's a valid playstyle too, but it's not what the most modern BH philosophy is which emphasises similar structures for all balls (yes including...

Second video - Kenta's opponent's style is almost exactly what I have to deal with lol... except that he mainly uses RPB inverted, my partner uses RPB mainly for the LP side so that there's no transition to the strong penhold FH. Basically he will disgust you with the weirdest balls...

Not necessarily. This is the full hip rotation stroke which I think is about 30-45 deg rotation. Also, its not necessarily a left to right weight transfer - if the ball is to your right hip or more you actually load up your right leg and push off it (while rotating hips). If ball is to your...

Knees and lower back (waist) and elbow are probably the most common. Elbow is mainly caused by arm only strokes (arm is overused because lower body is not helping enough). Knees is probably due to squatting too much in bad positions and not understanding weight transfer, and or having feet that...

OP's video hosting site appears to be a dodgy virus infected website....

Short video of how to use the hips to generate power on the BH by one of Harimoto's training partners. The most, most important thing is that the backswing is initiated by the hips and not the arm. And of course the forward swing is also initiated by the hips, not the arm. Anders Lind video...

Yes this is correct 100%. The hip rotation is necessary to generate real power behind the BH. Even in basic countering the hip rotation is present, just on a much smaller scale. Pretty much all the pros use it. Sometimes it's not so easily discerned by just watching the upper body which a lot of...

Yes at higher levels ppl are no longer troubled by the basic spin reversal stuff, and the amount of sting on incoming loops can be quite overwhelming - defending those are a pain with LPs especially if the attacker is also adept at changing up the spin, speed and placement. It's also something I...

Basically, a lot of what pro players tell you are useless because they already have close to perfect biomechanics from the body as a base. For eg Harimoto saying that all his BH is coming from his wrist which is clearly untrue as even in slowmo you can see his body working damn hard. Imo, most...