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For example, when someone asks the question "throw angle is a relation of angle of contact/speed of the blade/speed/spin of the incoming ball. What else?" and then begins to insult people who list some of the other parameters that are involved : Adhesion of rubber (grip and tackiness"), pip...

Yes. I would have chosen Tenergys. Still it illustrated nicely some of the phenomena relevant to the thread and the complexity of sorting it out. Table tennis rubber is a (very) mechanically complex structure and it moves at different angles and speeds relative to a ball that is spinning.

Thats geat info. Thanks. Just ordered some to check them out. Unfortunately they were sold out of ** balls so I will have to get a feel for them with the *.

Yep. That DTC has it.

I completely agree again. When I went from T05 to MX-P (for price), within a couple of days, my level was exactly the same (even though as you say, it is closer to 80 or 64 really). Same thing for me with EL-P. All these rubbers are intended for the same kind of player even if they are not...

Yes, I completely agree on both counts, at least for speed and spin and throw, especially from some of the reviewers here who I know have tried a lot of different things and who I know have a history of liking the same kinds of rubbers that I do. In time you kind of figure out who some of these...

@genre, From that video, you can see, it is not as easy as it seems at first thought to try to come up with firm conclusions because so many factors go into determining how a ball comes off the rubber. He did this a number of years ago. It would be interesting to have compared some of the...

This is the video I was looking for where Debater tried to setup an apparatus to do this kind of thing. He has made a lot of pretty interesting videos using a fairly high speed camera that he has to address some of the questions people have about table tennis equipment, and he is a careful and...

I am sure you know all sorts of engineering stuff and how to make a standard for whatever it is you used to work on back when you had a job, making vacuum tubes or rubber insulators or fans or whatever. Back when men were men damn it!!! Of course this is a table tennis forum and you have...

By the way, of course companies want to protect their proprietary stuff! Some of what goes into their rubbers is secret. More to the point, though, they have no interest in making it easier for players to make easy rational choices. They introduce a gazillion slightly different products and...

Well, have at it. You need to define the terms. All of them. Find a reliable way to measure them. Convince companies to all adopt it and make the measurements. Or get ITTF to mandate it. At the end of the day, will it make choosing a rubber easier? Maybe. If the things measured actually...

No. I am a scientist not an engineer*. But I do know there is no industry wide standardization in TT rubber ratings. Not for speed. Not for spin. Not for "control" whatever that is supposed to mean. And not for throw angle. But, throw angle really does mean something to experienced...

I quite agree with this. I think the thread has run its course and should be renamed or maybe locked. Emrat's videos are again viewable. He has not scammed anybody or cheated anybody. In fact, he has provided useful information on why Youtube can lock reasonable videos, and he has provided...

Some people think the fish scale look on a koto surface plays better. My favorite Viscaria has that look, but I'm not convinced it guarantees much. To me weight is more important. The one I like best has a slightly unusual weight distribution for a Viscaria, with more weight in the handle...

Throw angle is more meaningful than "control", which is not saying much. I don't think the term "throw angle" originated with Butterfly to describe Tenergy and people here use it to describe all sorts of non-Btfly rubbers. See for example discussions of various Evolution rubbers from Tibhar...

Here is a simpler one. With lower throw angle rubbers, aim a little higher. With high throw rubbers make sure you stay on the top of the ball to keep it on the table. That is as simple as it gets and really all you need to know (and apparently it is all you can handle). As for which...

Edit: Tropical, this is long and if you don't want to read it all, just click on the video below. The more detailed answer is that the phenomenon itself is complex and the term "throw angle for general usage" suffers from no definition of "general usage". What shot is that exactly? A loop...

Nice! I like those new ones with the green hologram. In the right weight they often play as nice as some of the really good black tag ones. And I think 90 g is the perfect weight for a Viscaria.

Sorry no. The Butterfly G40+ that is made in Germany is not much like Nittaku Premium (Japan) and it is not like anything else. It is absolutely not the same ball. The G40+ has a weird sound. It has a very smooth surface right out of the box (this is very different from Nittaku) and is...

Please give a review when you get them. I will wait until I can get them from TT11.