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That is one I am learning to copy and thanks for sharing, Shuki. It also facilitates core rotation rather than trying to just backswing with your arm. The ball is always moving so it is easy to whiff when you don't look closely.

Pretend you don't know my USATT rating and assume that my opponent's USATT rating is not public info. Can you guess the ratings and give specific reasons why you give the players the ratings you would give them if possible? Thanks.

In my experience, all of these statements distort the truth a little. I speak as someone who used to hit backspin on my backhand because I didn't know how to loop it. And I remember when I was USATT 1700+ and talking to a guy from France (2200+ USATT) who said that I hit backspin that I didn't...

This only applies if you are applying heavier and heavier amounts of topspin to the ball. You reach a backspin equilibrum of sorts if you know your loop. Sometimes, looping is not about generating heavy topspin, it's just about putting topspin on the ball. Opening your paddle makes it easier...

You are supposed to do what you do when you are looping in the video you put up at the beginning of the thread. It's not supposed to be something different - it's just not supposed to come across your neck. I suppose you have some of the issues I do though for different reasons, and that you...

Only if you try to purely overpower it in my experience. Some of it can be mitigated with the intelligent use of racket angles and the result is to get a ball with a higher level of spin that one would get when looping a topspin ball, partly because of the rotational component of the stroke but...

So you are trying to say that when you loop backspin, you are going to have to kill the existing spin on the ball and then use your stroke speed to create topspin? EDIT: I read what you said more carefully and I agree with you.

Cantaloop, When I was starting out, I spent many hours hitting with my coach. Then I would go play matches and start hitting the ball as hard as I could. Then one day, a better player told me to work on my consistency. So I hit with a slightly higher rated player than myself and was...

Go slower. Both of you probably.drill better against higher level players who can feed you a consistent ball repeatedly and don't realize how inconsistent you are. Over time, you will both get better buy you need to start slow. Use multiball if you need to drill something that requires a...

Exactly. And while you are young enough to believe in your infinite potential, those of us who are older know that it may never go away with time and work. So writing with humility once in a while is the simplest way to avoid backlash, even feigned humility. Or if you don't want to, then...

It's only complicated if you want to sound complicated - it's actually pretty easy. It's how I loop almost everything. If you don't loop heavy underspin and topspin that way, you won't get better as a player. That you are coming round the side of the ball doesn't mean that your loop has to be...

Read this thread. It's a great example of how someone's self-awareness gets awakened by criticism and online coaching. In my time giving online advice and helping people improve their games, I have seen many of these. And very often, there is often a disconnect between what the person thinks...

I actually prefer to be called Paul, as in St Paul, rather than Dickens, but it's okay. Epistles are not common these days. But I am writing a lot in an attempt to get through to you, to be honest. I like to write, but I can see when someone has personality traits that I am familiar with...

What usually happens is that most people are afraid of hitting the ball long. That is what drives the shallow swing. But with practice reading and adapting to the ball, it goes away. You have to start your strokes higher vs topspin and slightly lower vs backspin. IT's when most people play...

Then just shadow what you do with the actual ball. It will make it even better. Pros shadow the correct stroke after misses for a reason. Shadowing something other than what I think is the ideal form is not something I would recommend in good faith to anyone without a really good reason and I...

Thank Brett - I am just a shameless plagiarist.

I can see that. When I first started, my stroke was mostly like yours and it was the biggest thing that Brett wanted me to change. When I stepped back, it was cleaner and towards the forehead like yours, but when I came closer to the table, I came across the body, again like you. Brett kinda...

Not just the ball bouncing but even reading the opponent's physical movements. Reading the spin too as well. All those things let you get into position earlier. It's one of the reasons why I smile at people who focus on all the wrong things.

Life is not logic, life is experience. IT's one of those things that young people who have to succeed in practical matters learn as they grow. Remember when you posted on ooakforum and I accused you of trolling? It had nothing to do with logic but everything to do with the fact that table...

Swinging shallow is more common in bent arm looping techniques, but the main reason why you want to avoid it as part of your core technique is that it in addition to providing less leverage and reducing proper topspin lift/arc on your strokes, it often takes the swing off the line of sight with...