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says TableTennisDaily 2,0 is live!says TableTennisDaily 2,0 is live!10-24-2017 1508878049 #1
Outrageous wiggle by Simon Gauzy!
This is an absolute must watch! Simon Gauzy hits an absolute savage wiggle against Jeong Sangeun in the recent World Cup round of 16! I mean what is this shot even called!? Watch it below and leave a comment on what you want to name it!
Simon leaves Jeong scrambling and has to be a contender for craziest shot of the year! What should this shot be called?The Following 11 Users Like TableTennisDaily's Post:
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This user has no status.This user has no status.10-24-2017 1508879708 #2
The WITTF!?
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This user has no status.This user has no status.10-24-2017 1508880616 #3
Fools me even in slow motion. I can't spot a tell from this angle.
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says Hellosays Hello10-25-2017 1508889669 #4
Simon gauzy right now has to be most creative player in TT.
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says Mind over mattersays Mind over matter10-25-2017 1508890044 #5
In our region we call it “der Schüttler“.
Can't tell the english name though.
[EDIT: “Der Schüttler“ means translated the shaker, so “wiggle“ is quite close]
Timo's did it in a match against Andrej Gacina not too long ago, Thomas Keinath and a few players who've been practicing under Helmut Hampl can do it too (i saw it live, actually they pulled that trickshot on me at the table)
lastly i remember a vid Adam Bobrow has posted on his Facebook where he shows he can do it too.
I'll try to find the vids and post them here.The Following 2 Users Like Suga D's Post:
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Last edited by Suga D; 10-25-2017 at 08:39 PM.
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10-25-2017 1508897025 #6
the gauze pad
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says Dima... Amazing...says Dima... Amazing...10-25-2017 1508909800 #7
The destroyer?
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says modestly attempting kōhaiship of Jeul-Taksays modestly attempting kōhaiship of Jeul-Tak10-25-2017 1508914299 #8
Wiggle isn't a bad find, but I think it's a corkscrew variation. What he does, is putting reverse corkscrew spin on the ball by a swift flick of the wrist and disguising it by opposing arm gestures.
At a much, much lower level I once faced an opponent with very limited abilities — but the one thing he could do was corkscrew/reverse corkscrews under the table, which turned out utterly disturbing and lead to many mistakes due to misreading spin and mistiming the hit. It took an unconventional approach to win that game, lobbing these corkscrews back loaded up with spin.The Following User Likes yoass's Post:
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Last edited by yoass; 10-25-2017 at 11:58 AM.
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This user has no status.This user has no status.10-25-2017 1508917917 #9
I thought it's officially named 'The Snake' by Adam Bobrow.
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says Mind over mattersays Mind over matter10-25-2017 1508922803 #10
Basically it's a sidespin shot with a fake follow through.
Here's the promised vid:
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says I like to hit Heavy Topspinsays I like to hit Heavy Topspin10-25-2017 1508934579 #11
Timo doesn't sell the fake though. He just puts the corkscrew sidespin on and the amount of sidespin is completely misjudged. His opponent can even see his racket as he does it.
Gauzy's fake motion is very convincing when you can't see what his racket actually does.
Still, Timo gets such pure corkscrew and such a kick to the side.The Following User Likes UpSideDownCarl's Post:
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says Mind over mattersays Mind over matter10-25-2017 1508948317 #12
I guess we have to agree to disagree on this one, Carl.
From Gacina´s angle i´m not sure if he could properly see what was happening under the table. At 0.03 you can clearly see the moment of contact from Boll and at that moment Gacina´s got his eyes on the ball..... Not so much on Timo´s racket.
He obviously seems to expect the ball jumping in the other direction or why would he go the side if not to kill the ball?
Maybe you just had a quick look and want to look again, my friend.
BTW: here´s Adam´s vid. He also explains and shows what he´s doing. Doesn´t have much to do with corkscrew to me.
Somehow i couldn´t embedd it. Maybe you guys know how to...
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Last edited by Suga D; 10-25-2017 at 04:26 PM.
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This user has no status.This user has no status.10-25-2017 1508957701 #13
So Gauzy basically does a quick wristy sidespin to the right... followed by moving his arm to the left, giving the impression of spinning the ball to the left.
I notice the ball doesn't actually kick out too far over to the right. Yeung just stepped over anticipating a curve the other way. It bounces near the middle white line and doesn't appear to go much beyond the middle right side before bouncing on the ground. Whereas some of Adam Bobrow's curves get huge kick on them, but he seems to be using more motion and power for each shot. Gauzy's was more deception than outright spin I think.
All in all, great stuff! Hard to spot even in slow mo, as Gauzy does such a good job with the fake.The Following User Likes LordPippington's Post:
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This user has no status.This user has no status.10-25-2017 1508959262 #14
Here it's also called the snake.
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This user has no status.This user has no status.10-25-2017 1508962753 #15
The wild thing about Timo's is that the up trajectory is pretty straight up. With high amounts of side during play you generally see a left to right arcing of the ball usually. To have the ball come straight up then kick on bounce is the mind screw.
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says I like to hit Heavy Topspinsays I like to hit Heavy Topspin10-25-2017 1508964599 #16
Perhaps part of the issue is that in Gauzy’s shot, I am fooled by the fake followthrough motion because I can’t actually see what he does.
There is no doubt in Tomo’s shot his opponent misreads the spin. If Timo’s racket is visible to Gacina it makes the deception that much more interesting.
But you are probably correct.
Gauzy’s fake followthrough is simply very obvious and I can’t see what he actually did. But I definitely can see what Timo did.
And no mater what, to get that much lateral kick means there was a lot of corkscrew spin on Timo’s shot. Therefore: INCREDIBLE TOUCH.
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This user has no status.This user has no status.10-25-2017 1508965157 #17
Gauzy did a very nasty trick, namely he only used his racket's angle and the incoming spin.
If you look at it carefully, he only does a fake followthrough, there is no true followthrough. He simply just touches the ball from the opposing side you would expect from his followthrough and probably uses his wrist to generate more spin.
So, this trick can't be done with every snake, because it heavily depends on the incoming spin, or you would hit the ball under the table with that motion. But no doubt that it requires great touch.The Following 2 Users Like ajtatosmano2's Post:
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This user has no status.This user has no status.10-27-2017 1509114294 #18
Simon is the next European superstar!!
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This user has no status.This user has no status.10-30-2017 1509384121 #19
Bonjour à tous.
Voici la photo de cette superbe balle.
D'autres photos de la compétition sur ma page facebook "Tennis de table photos-Comeliau Bernard".
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