Benyamin Faraji 14 years old.

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[Tony's Table Tennis]

Well you never answered the question, are the Taiwanese players who beat him 14 years old?

one is 14
one is 15

You gave evidence, you moved to different evidence without closing out your original evidence. sounds to me like you are just trying to justify an already accepted conclusion. Kind of like saying Hugo was overrated because he didn't play in Europe or Asia, when he placed in the Olympics exactly where his world ranking said he would place.

i didn't say that
i already said, ittf data shows the 14 year old kid had dozens of losses to unknown low rank juniors in recent months
and those that beat wonder boy are not in the level to beat CNT players too.

The WJTTC is at the end of November, let's see how it plays out. Iran has good players, they wouldn't throw out a 14 year old boy for fun unless they felt he was one of their best players.

they have a lot indeed and many are old
so it is good to see youth in the line up.
I know top German junior that change nationality because of 2 players that can play 2 decades long...

Juniors often play with variable level, but very few juniors can give the players he competed with any level of competition and trying to say that because he can lose to lower rated players that his level is not there is obviously true, but annoying uninsightful. How many juniors can beat Wang Chuqin even with a tail wind? Anyone who saw the LSD match cannot pretend the boy is just another junior. You keep pushing this narrative whether it is about Truls or Hugo or other players. Push it about Taiwanese players, please.

Here is an article for 2023 WTT Youth contender Almaty where they say he beat quite a few juniors from Chinese Taipei.

Benyamin Faraji Wins Gold at WTT Youth Contender Almaty

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beating the CNT is indeed a great result
however he is not a harimoto who at 13 was already owning the junior circuit
Faraji is still shaky in junior circuit and if he is really the next harimoto, then he needs to dominating juniors before the age of 16 and maybe turn to senior pro from 17 years old.

you said it, look at the data, and I did! he has some good wins but way more bad losses.
and he needs to play outside easy regions to face more tougher opponents and to have more good wins and dominate juniors.

with the ATTC, he should have good confidence and belief now. But same time, he will need to learn to cope with media and that is something that requires expert help too.

 

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one is 14
one is 15


i didn't say that
i already said, ittf data shows the 14 year old kid had dozens of losses to unknown low rank juniors in recent months
and those that beat wonder boy are not in the level to beat CNT players too.

they have a lot indeed and many are old
so it is good to see youth in the line up.
I know top German junior that change nationality because of 2 players that can play 2 decades long...

beating the CNT is indeed a great result
however he is not a harimoto who at 13 was already owning the junior circuit
Faraji is still shaky in junior circuit and if he is really the next harimoto, then he needs to dominating juniors before the age of 16 and maybe turn to senior pro from 17 years old.

you said it, look at the data, and I did! he has some good wins but way more bad losses.
and he needs to play outside easy regions to face more tougher opponents and to have more good wins and dominate juniors.

with the ATTC, he should have good confidence and belief now. But same time, he will need to learn to cope with media and that is something that requires expert help too.

You seriously believe that a 14 year old boy who plays on the national team is dealing with media for the first time after beating Wang Chuqin?

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

You seriously believe that a 14 year old boy who plays on the national team is dealing with media for the first time after beating Wang Chuqin?

i'm not sure if your definition of dealing with media is the same as what I am saying or witnessed many times before.

I was with the whole TPE team yesterday.
Lin Yunju had Malaysian fans (media/self proclaim media, youtuber, who knows) flying in yesterday to some event that isn't really broadcasted/known (the date was changed last min too).

I could not tell how many were fans or media, but none of them looks local and they all had big cameras.
and my goodness, they only appeared when Lin walked in, which was maybe 2 or 3 hours after the first lots of stars was in the building.

over the past 3 years, he had to change PR methods, due to some incidents before (ie signing for all or no signing at all).
he has to change methods of handling media, handing fans (now with autograph sessions only) and also getting off social media.
his only "body guards" is his parents, his coach and his training partner.
he may need to increase security.

Kao on the other hand is doing what Lin is doing before and still open and "helpful". I personally believe media and fan coverage will change his personality as there is a thin line that is easy to get out of control and it will go crazy with fame.
Well, at least the Malaysian fans didn't get Lin's, but got Kao's autographs.
They didn't go for anyone else. I was sitting between Huang Yan-Cheng and Feng Yi-Hsin the longest out of the boys. I was also by Cheng I-Ching, and the other girls for longer than the boys. But generally the girls don't get much fans or coverage.

The more famous you become, the more expert help you will need for media and all those cameras on you (I counted over 20+ yesterday) and this 14 year old wonder boy still has a lot to learn when comes to dealing with media as the spot light will only get more and more on him.

think about it, before he probably won't have any photographer when he plays back home or away.
now he could have 2 dozens following him where he goes or when he plays (or even sitting and watching other people player - yes, Lin had cameras on him while he was watching his team mates play - I went to stand next to those Malaysians to see what they were doing)
and you saying he has dealt with that before?
its a different world before and now and the future my friend

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

on a side note, the news of LYJ in the area broke out (I didn't go today) and there are over 100 fans there queuing for his signature
many of them having big cameras out, and ones with no big camera is all recording with their phones.

its a corporate tournament that Lin had to pitch as he is an "employee" of them.
But in recent years, his name was listed and didn't pitch as the team is all star (Lin, Chuang, Kao, Feng, Huang, Guo, Yang, Chen) and only 5 of them needs to play.

I believe tomorrow will be worse, but Lin has gone through this already. He is achieved way more than Chuang or Chiang in terms of fan bases in Taiwan.
the Japanese players have good managers who help players progress through this.

I was told the fans today are also very respectable, and didn't cause too much problems.
but they do stand around 3m from the surrounds of where he is sitting. So it is very close distance. The hall is terrible and too small, so didn't separate spectators from players.

 

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[PoppaChubby]

Benyamin Faraji can definitely do like Felix did: entering qualifying rounds of Contenders and play Feeders, specially those that are right after big tier 1 tournaments, where no top 20 players really want to play. Youth WTT events are for B-list kids, he's a A-list one 100%, youth tier 1 events like ATTC U15 and U17 + World ITTF Youth are for him, no need to lose time and energy with so few points in WTT Youth Contenders. Flavien Coton barely plays in those events too.

EDIT: yeah, euro adults are a step above still, Ovidiu Ionescu is a vet already, but it was the same for Felix and Alexis at 14. No need to worry. I'd like to see him in french Pro B or Nationale 1, that would benefit to his development, and we've got many Iran international players here to help him adapt.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Benyamin Faraji can definitely do like Felix did: entering qualifying rounds of Contenders and play Feeders, specially those that are right after big tier 1 tournaments, where no top 20 players really want to play. Youth WTT events are for B-list kids, he's a A-list one 100%, youth tier 1 events like ATTC U15 and U17 + World ITTF Youth are for him, no need to lose time and energy with so few points in WTT Youth Contenders. Flavien Coton barely plays in those events too.

EDIT: yeah, euro adults are a step above still, Ovidiu Ionescu is a vet already, but it was the same for Felix and Alexis at 14. No need to worry. I'd like to see him in french Pro B or Nationale 1, that would benefit to his development, and we've got many Iran international players here to help him adapt.

he would want high youth contender / youth star contender points, even youth smash points, since 4 of them will count towards senior wr

with that, it can help him with better wr and seeding.

supposedly the youth points should be easy to come by for him.

ie, youth star contender winner is 60 points, worth more than SF in feeder of 45 points.
if he can get 4 x 60 points, that would give him 240 points or a WR100 position

 

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[NetProphet]

Good match. Never heard of Lam before but very impressed, particularly with with his terperament

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Good match. Never heard of Lam before but very impressed, particularly with with his terperament

this kid now has all the confident in the world.

how many 14 years olds can go and tell his mates on who he has beaten before... great resume

 

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[Metaxa]

I fear that Benyamin within 10 years, he is going to have problems with his shoulder muscle. Hopefully not!

 

[rbtitco]

I fear that Benyamin within 10 years, he is going to have problems with his shoulder muscle. Hopefully not!

Yea, it's not the most compact swing. Hopefully, it doesn't end up in some kind of Tommy John surgery like u said.

 

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[Tony's Table Tennis]

he is very beatable, a list of players that beat him:
SAKOWICZ Mateusz (POL)
IWAIDA Shunto (JPN)
HIRATSUKA Kenyu (JPN)
OKADA Sora (JPN)
ESSID Wassim (TUN)
CHENG Hong Yu (TPE)
KURMANGALIYEV Alan (KAZ)
CHOI Jiwook (KOR)
ZHOU Guanhong (CHN)
HSU Hsien-Chia (TPE)
KRIVOKAPIC Jaksa (MNE)
OCAL Gorkem (TUR)
BHATTACHARJEE Ankur (IND)
LEE Seungsoo (KOR)
CHANG Yu-An (TPE)
KIM Gaon (KOR)
BAE Won (AUS)
LAM Nathan (FRA)
CLOSSET Tom (BEL)
TESSIER Noah (FRA)
LOVHA Mykhailo (SVK)

and these are only WTT Youth competition so far in 2025

 

[joshmak10]

It seems once u get used to Faraji serve, it’s light work to beat him. CDS had a bit of trouble but once he adapted he destroyed Benyamin.

he is very beatable, a list of players that beat him:
SAKOWICZ Mateusz (POL)
IWAIDA Shunto (JPN)
HIRATSUKA Kenyu (JPN)
OKADA Sora (JPN)
ESSID Wassim (TUN)
CHENG Hong Yu (TPE)
KURMANGALIYEV Alan (KAZ)
CHOI Jiwook (KOR)
ZHOU Guanhong (CHN)
HSU Hsien-Chia (TPE)
KRIVOKAPIC Jaksa (MNE)
OCAL Gorkem (TUR)
BHATTACHARJEE Ankur (IND)
LEE Seungsoo (KOR)
CHANG Yu-An (TPE)
KIM Gaon (KOR)
BAE Won (AUS)
LAM Nathan (FRA)
CLOSSET Tom (BEL)
TESSIER Noah (FRA)
LOVHA Mykhailo (SVK)

and these are only WTT Youth competition so far in 2025

It shows how bad WCQ’s post olympic mental state was