Best throw angle for beginner players

[Andyzhao123]

Hi again!

Does anyone know which throw angle (high, med high, med, med low, low) is the best for beginners? I'm a little confused since some people say that high throw angle is less controllable, and low throw angle is difficult to execute consistently.

 

[brokenball]

Hard bats! The inverted game is very fast. Hard bat play is a little slower and encourages footwork and a better feel for how to hit the ball since there is no sponge.

OK, throw rocks.

A rubber I liked when getting started was Reflectoid. It isn't fast but not as slow as zeropong says it is. Reflectoid is good for close to the table play and is excellent for making slow spinny loops. I think I would characterize Reflectoid as medium high throw because the spin to speed ratio is pretty high.

Faster rubbers are obviously required to get the ball past good players that can play deep but we are talking about beginners that will mostly block, push and hit.

 

[Mimobrok]

(1) Throw angle is not a basic property of rubber. That is, it is not a tangible property that can be scientifically measured through lab test like the friction of the surface(how tacky/grippy) or sponge hardness, but rather a property generated from subjective reviews. The most reasonable description I have ever come across is that throw angle is a ratio between spin/speed generated on an average loop. This also corresponds to the trend that rubbers that are designed for spin(soft/tacky/slow&spinny) are highly rated for throw angle on Revspin.

(2) Throw angle is relative. People describe each rubber's throw angle based on the comparison to another rubber they have used. People who have used Vega Intro will say that Mark V has a high throw angle. Even though sites like Revspin exists, please note that each player tends to have a preferred groups of equipment they like. For example, people who play with tacky rubber will most likely have played with other tacky rubbers before. A review of Mark V might be faster than it actually is because the person making the review will probably have gotten Mark V as the first rubber on a custom setup, thus it is more spinny/faster than shitty premades etc.

(3) Here is a reasonable throw angle article.

(4) Using a higher throw rubber doesn't mean you can't keep your shots low. You can still adjust your stroke to produce nearly the same trajectory as you would with another rubber, thus throw angle shouldn't matter too much.

(5) However, if a rubber is rated to the extreme(extremely low throw angle, or extremely high throw angle), it would also imply that the rubber is either (1) very sensitive to spin(high throw--Baracuda, Tenergy 05) (2) not designed for the spin game(low throw - Rasanter V series, Bryce speed). Thus you should avoid them as a beginner, not because they are bad, but because they are better suited for people already have a clear idea about how they want to play their game.

Very Short Summary: Doesn't matter, just don't get the extremes.

 

[Anwar Saeed]

Best throw angle for beginner is low throw rubbers. It's not a tangible property for the rubber I agree but some manufacturer indicates that like butterfly, yasaka, nittaku. If you look closely they rank up by throw angle through some charts for rubbers. T64 being the lowest throw to T05 being highest. Like S-1 for Nittaku being the lowest and G-1 being the highest. Then for Yasaka , R9 being the lowest and now RXX being the highest.
Why low throw is good and after a long 8 years journey I realized and came back to soem mid/low throw rubber like Donic Sonex JP Gold because I feel it's necessary to build good action. Let me explain why.
Now, beginners and non-pro players tend to hit in the topspin shots in "Acceleration" band of their stroke where high throw rubbers tend to go very uppish. Ever feel like T05 not being forgiving and very technical rubber? Because of that. Because if you hit in your early part of the swing, the high throw rubbers will make the ball fly very high and tend to go out of the court long. Since beginners and Amateurs will not learn to hit with good acc-speed balance, they should stick to low-mid throw rubbers, like T64 and T80, or S-1,C-1,P-1. And for serve receives too you will get less sensitive throw and it's good for early stage. Also similar advantage for blocking too.
Now for high throws, when you can hit with good ratio, like pro. It's better to have high throw rubbers, because they also are good spinny rubbers. Hence you can put good pressure and then the "Control" thing becomes reversed. In this hit mode, low/mid throw rubbers gives you not so spinny flatter shots, hence bad control. So, when you feel like your shots are becomming flatter and flatter, you need more spin... and your hits are looking more like pros, then you can switch to high throw rubbers.