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Bad decision for Sora, he's going to regret this choice
By all indications, he has had his best results with the rubber on his backhand and you think he is going to regret the change? Seriously?
 
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he was using dignics 05 on backhand
Oh you mean Butterfly lies about the date and he was really using D05? When he changed on October 1?

Okay then. If you present the video evidence I will stand corrected.
 
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says toooooo much choice!!
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I played only one other player using Zyre03. He's a much better player than I am. It was his first session with Zyre03. Don't recall the last time my opponent had to look at his rubber every other shot he made in disbelief - because every other shot went into the net or off the table and the ones that made it across were very high quality ... So, yeah, the real J&H rubber.
If he’s using carbon / fibre’s then Z03 will be very quick!!!
between the 2 all wood blades I currently have Z03 on -
one rated about 1080Hz and the other about 1205Hz the speed difference is very noticeable!! I prefer the slower blade!!
 
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If he’s using carbon / fibre’s then Z03 will be very quick!!!
between the 2 all wood blades I currently have Z03 on -
one rated about 1080Hz and the other about 1205Hz the speed difference is very noticeable!! I prefer the slower blade!!
He is using it on a Viscaria. But what is the point of putting a rubber like Zyre 03 on an allround allwood blade? Bragging rights? There's no shame in admitting a rubber or blade is too fast for you and continuing to play with what you can actually control.
 
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He is using it on a Viscaria. But what is the point of putting a rubber like Zyre 03 on an allround allwood blade? Bragging rights? There's no shame in admitting a rubber or blade is too fast for you and continuing to play with what you can actually control.
I will say that my pushes with the slower blade were better and I didnt lose much on close to the table counters. What I lost was in training and was tied to ease of fast distance rallying when my opponent was blocking. But I suspect I went a bit too slow on the blade for a certain playing style. I do plan to run more experiments when I resume playing next year. Even my 2600 coach said the ball came really fast off the rubber and was surprised the blade was slow.
 
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He is using it on a Viscaria. But what is the point of putting a rubber like Zyre 03 on an allround allwood blade? Bragging rights? There's no shame in admitting a rubber or blade is too fast for you and continuing to play with what you can actually control.
I’m not bragging.
But I can play with it on an all wood blade that’s the point.
 
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I don't feel like watching the whole game again to find a frame where it's shown. If you're so keen to prove your point at all costs, you could do it yourself.
I havs already presented evidence (per Gozo) that shows the date of change as October 1. You are the one claiming Butterfly is lying and that he was using D05 vs Wang Chuqin and others at the Asian Teams (and we still haven't gotten to his tournaments Champions event performances). So I dont have to be keen to defend something you havent presented any evidence other than your word against. Hopefully that makes sense. I don't have the burden of proof since I am not claiming. Butterfly is lying, you do. Of course, I would not claim or argue that Butterfly never makes mistakes with their charts. But their charts have been reliable and do reflect changes from Diaz and Lin Yun ju amongst others.
 
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IB what about the Hinoki custom SDC blade, it's one piece? how thick is? how much weight? the FS is very low, how about the spin?
It’s a 5 ply,
composition - Hinoki / Padauk / Kiri / Padauk / Hinoki.
weight - 86.9 grams
balance - very low - 1.7mm
Frequency - 1080Hz
yes it is a pretty slow blade!! When I got it Sergio ’hoped’ I’d get on with the Hinoki veneers!! I’ve had a few different rubbers on it and never really had any issues.
Spin capability is good with Z03, any better than the other rubbers? Probably not better, but up there!! Faster - yep!! But still controllable. Less so with the other blade (1205Hz) on something faster still, I’d crash and burn!!!
 
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He is using it on a Viscaria. But what is the point of putting a rubber like Zyre 03 on an allround allwood blade? Bragging rights? There's no shame in admitting a rubber or blade is too fast for you and continuing to play with what you can actually control.
One scenario could be that one prefers the feel of all wood or the blade is thinner and flexier, which would give insane spin. A fast rubber like Zyre could offset the loss of speed of a setvup like this. It could be incredible, really.
 
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i also Know that sora used Dignics05 in chinese super league and in Asian Teams championship he still used D05.
I have also explained why if you dont produce pictures, I don't have to believe you. He also has two of his best tournament performances after that. Did he use D05 there as well? He took Wang 7 games in December and would have won 3-1 if it was a best of 5. Did he use D05 there as well? Did he regret using what he was using in all thoae tournaments? Hopefully you will produce your evidence at some point.
 
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Butterfly website may be right ofc but when that website lists Shinozuka’s bday incorrectly (as Togami’s funnily enough) I will have some trouble trusting it…
Not a problem at all. My point is that we should have evidence based discussions here. Nothing i have written contradicts that. But if you want to claim that Sora will regret using Zyre when all his best tournament performances seem to have come after the date he is listed as switching to Zyre, it would be easier to just grab a picture that shows he is really not using Zyre in *any* of the events he has dominated recently. But we are still stuck without a single picture so....
 
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It’s a 5 ply,
composition - Hinoki / Padauk / Kiri / Padauk / Hinoki.
weight - 86.9 grams
balance - very low - 1.7mm
Frequency - 1080Hz
yes it is a pretty slow blade!! When I got it Sergio ’hoped’ I’d get on with the Hinoki veneers!! I’ve had a few different rubbers on it and never really had any issues.
Spin capability is good with Z03, any better than the other rubbers? Probably not better, but up there!! Faster - yep!! But still controllable. Less so with the other blade (1205Hz) on something faster still, I’d crash and burn!!!
I contacted Sergio to made me a blade but 1 year of waiting list is a lot of time for me.

I like the weight 86.9 gr, are you sure hinoki doesn't made more spin? is flex, hard or stiff the blade? I tried Kiri core and always my feeling is more speed than ayous core.
 
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