Changes will coming into future WTTC

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I agree! We could just make more big leagues like the CTTSL. It could even be mixed in men and women

Where would the money come from?

Most of CTTSL clubs are backed with sponsors with backing from the Chinese government. aka, endless cash flow.

Since you use the world "we", so who is this we?

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Well, I just found an interview of Adham Sharara :

http://www.dohastadiumplusqatar.com/level-playing-field/

Here is an extract :

Why do you think it’s necessary to end the Chinese domination?
[...]

How did China react to the idea?
[...]
We made two the limit in London and I was China’s No.1 enemy as they felt I took away a medal from them, which is true to an extent. They got angry with me in the beginning, but then I explained to them the positive side of it. When they saw how the sport attracted huge fans, they relented. There was more competition. And after Japan, Singapore and Germany won medals at the London Games, other nations also started showing interest. We’ve convinced China to reduce the number of players at the World Championships as well.



Like China is OK to reduce the number of players at WTTC's ("we've convinced China..."). Look LGL's words in my previous post above.

Now, even if I tried, it will be hard to believe him when he will talk about China dominance, the good things to do for the sport, etc.

Imo, the problem is not China, the problem is not ITTF/Sharara.
The problem is some countries are not interested in getting better in table tennis.

No matter how much China invest/helps, or ITTF/Sharara does to "really help", it all comes to the national federation and how they want to suceed, based on a long term goal.

This is the root of all problems. Too many short sighted people, or politicians that aren't sports persons.
The Sharara issue is just making what is good, worse. But not making what is bad, better.

Thats why I like to encourage people, don't scream at ITTF, go and scream at your national federation.
They are the one who voted in favour of all ITTF changes.
They are the one who can make a (small) different. But collectively, all these national federation can turn the world around

 

[John18]

Yes, I understand what you say Tony. And you are right but what makes me get angry is the obvious lies he can say like it's nothing. He says one thing one day and then say the opposite another day (like the reason to move to poly balls: in this itw, it's to slow down the game).

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Yes, I understand what you say Tony. And you are right but what makes me get angry is the obvious lies he can say like it's nothing. He says one thing one day and then say the opposite another day (like the reason to move to poly balls: in this itw, it's to slow down the game).

I assume you are refering to the lie about poly balls change due to celluliod bans?

That is not a lie....

Did you know, EU already banned celluliod toys in 2006?
Did you know that 90% of todays cellu balls are made in China?
Do you know how many factories fires were caused from unconditionally explosion of cellu balls in the manufactoring process?
Do you know how many years of R&D of the current plastic balls and how many prototypes was planned before present this to ITTF?

The fact is cellu banned in many countries, but not China (yet).
When China bans it, then the world will be in trouble with a huge shortage of balls.
Besides extra strict gov regulations on cellu factories in China, health risk, fire risk, it also causes huge logitical nightmares.

Very much I don't agree with Sharara, but the above is not a lie and just some anti-sharara campaign from some people and people falling for the bait because they are uneducated about the topic.

So the change to poly will weaken the Chinese as some claims? lol, not if China is making the balls

But based on other things he said, it is all "votes in favour" that you should worry about.
One man can not be so powerful, unless he has 2/3 votes.
So agian, root of the problem is not him!

 

[John18]

Ok Tony, you convinced me for the poly ball but for the new rules at the WTTC, it is still not clear for me.

And, another thing that bothers me is the increase of the ball's dimensions without asking the opinions of TT players (to slow down the game).

But this debate has been made so many times and I don't want to dwell on. And again, I think you're right about the root of the problem and I don't want to do an anti-Sharara capmaign.

However, when you talk about "votes in favour", I wonder one thing. Do you know if the new president have been elected or named ? (it's a real question, I don't want to be aggresive). And about his new chairman position, did he named himself ? And is it a position for a lifetime ? Because, if it's the case...

Thanks

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Ok Tony, you convinced me for the poly ball but for the new rules at the WTTC, it is still not clear for me.

And, another thing that bothers me is the increase of the ball's dimensions without asking the opinions of TT players (to slow down the game).

But this debate has been made so many times and I don't want to dwell on. And again, I think you're right about the root of the problem and I don't want to do an anti-Sharara capmaign.

However, when you talk about "votes in favour", I wonder one thing. Do you know if the new president have been elected or named ? (it's a real question, I don't want to be aggresive). And about his new chairman position, did he named himself ? And is it a position for a lifetime ? Because, if it's the case...

Thanks

The ball dimension has not changed. ITTF law states it must be between 39.50 to 40.50, so technically speaking, the ball is within its limits and not requiring any board approval.
The cellu balls was mostly 39.6 to 39.8, while the new poly balls are mostly 40.20.
The reason for the big gap of 39.50 to 40.50 is due to technical difficulties in the manufactoring process.
If it does require board approval, then it is the national federations that will vote. The people that are representing you and me - the TT players as you call it.

New president as far as I know, was voted/elected in, same as the chairman position and Sharara was voted/elected into the new post.
Regarding lifetime - no idea

The reduced players rules for WTTC/OG is really silly. I don't support it as well, but I'm sure many federations do, otherwise, it wouldn't have been approved so easily.
If ITTF or Sharara singlually did it, then i'm sure we would here a lot of noise in the federations and media.

 

[John18]

OK, thanks for the answer.
Yeah, I knew about the 39.50 to 40.50 mm rule but how do you know that the increase is due to a manufactoring problem (again just asking) because in this interview, he said he wanted to slow down the game and that's what the bigger diameter do.
I think there would be less protestations if the ball had the same size.

About the reduction of players, I guess that the little federations (which send less than 5 players) don't care much. And they are a majority with as much power as the biggest (am I right about the power between each federation ?).