Compare rubber H3 and Jupiter 3

[Love_TT]

I need some advice, guys.
I’m currently choosing between two Chinese backhand rubbers:

• Hurricane 3 – 37°
• Yinhe Jupiter 3 – 37°

I will definitely use Seamoon booster on either one.
I want a stable backhand, easy opening, and reliable counters at close–mid distance. I know Chinese rubbers on the BH can be tricky, but I really like the feel when receiving, blocking, and brushing with tacky topsheets.
For those who have tried either of these (especially boosted with Seamoon), could you share your thoughts on:

• Ease of use on the backhand
• Best playing distance
• Performance for BH opening, blocking, and looping
• Durability

Which one would be more suitable for BH: H3 37° or Jupiter 3 37°?
Looking forward to hearing your experiences—thanks!

 

[dprsspins]

Blade : Nittaku Septear (7 ply Kiso Hinoki all wood)

I used both for quite a while on this blade but both unboosted. I played the Hurricane 3 H40 unboosted on forehand and felt it was unplayable unboosted. The Hurricane 3 H37 unboosted felt mushy on forehand and felt decent for backhand. But I still preferred tensors for my backhand. This rubber can be played from all distances if your technique is dialed in, since it definitely has the power especially boosted. Blocking is great and looping is awesome, but you need elite footwork to get yourself in position to do that big chinese style wide arc swing this rubber demands.

I played and currently play Yinhe Jupiter 3 Asia H39, and it was a dream on the forehand. All manner of strokes were made easier with the dynamic sponge and super tacky topsheet. I've tried it for a bit on the backhand, while playable, it definitely itches to be used on the forehand more. It's sponge is definitely more lively and has more kick than the Hurricane, and I would guess it to be the same if both were equally boosted. Yinhe Jupiter 3 Asia is perfectly fine unboosted and is almost like a hybrid with a tacky Chinese topsheet, but I also heard it reacts well to boosting. I haven't the chance yet to use it at H37 though. On all shots, this rubber is definitely more forgiving, albeit with perhaps a slightly lower ceiling than the Hurricane 3. It is playable also from any distance, but it's more forgiving on short game but as easy or even easier to play on long distance rallies. This, to me, is a monster rubber.

As for durability, I would say Hurricane 3 beats it by a smidge in terms of tackiness longevity. However, I feel Yinhe Jupiter 3's sponge keeps its liveliness for longer and has some good grip in its topsheet to still produce some spin even after it's tack has degraded. Hurricane 3, sadly, can't really grip anymore when it loses it's tack. However, for backhand this doesn't really matter to me since I usually play most of my deep, strong loops and points with my forehand. Backhand rubbers will therefore last me quite a while.

If I had to choose one for my backhand, I'd probably go for Yinhe Jupiter 3, for the following reasons;

1) I'm not backhand dominant so I'll need some free speed from the dynamic sponge.
2) Regular boosting is tiring for me so if I decide to go unboosted this rubber won't fail me.
3) Yinhe Jupiter 3 is cheaper and therefore more bang for the buck.
4) Yinhe Jupiter 3 will be more durable if unboosted compared to a boosted Hurricane 3, but if both are boosted for backhand, they'll still be generally long-lasting since I'm not backhand dominant.

 

[al_111]

Boosted H3 is medium/medium-high throw while J3 is low throw AND low arc. Couldn't play it on bh because of that (mine was 38 deg).

 

[dprsspins]

I would guess that if OP also boosted the Jupiter 3, it's throw and arc would be medium to medium-high as well. The softer hardness at 37 may also increase arc height. But I could be wrong.

 

[Love_TT]

Blade : Nittaku Septear (7 ply Kiso Hinoki all wood)

I used both for quite a while on this blade but both unboosted. I played the Hurricane 3 H40 unboosted on forehand and felt it was unplayable unboosted. The Hurricane 3 H37 unboosted felt mushy on forehand and felt decent for backhand. But I still preferred tensors for my backhand. This rubber can be played from all distances if your technique is dialed in, since it definitely has the power especially boosted. Blocking is great and looping is awesome, but you need elite footwork to get yourself in position to do that big chinese style wide arc swing this rubber demands.

I played and currently play Yinhe Jupiter 3 Asia H39, and it was a dream on the forehand. All manner of strokes were made easier with the dynamic sponge and super tacky topsheet. I've tried it for a bit on the backhand, while playable, it definitely itches to be used on the forehand more. It's sponge is definitely more lively and has more kick than the Hurricane, and I would guess it to be the same if both were equally boosted. Yinhe Jupiter 3 Asia is perfectly fine unboosted and is almost like a hybrid with a tacky Chinese topsheet, but I also heard it reacts well to boosting. I haven't the chance yet to use it at H37 though. On all shots, this rubber is definitely more forgiving, albeit with perhaps a slightly lower ceiling than the Hurricane 3. It is playable also from any distance, but it's more forgiving on short game but as easy or even easier to play on long distance rallies. This, to me, is a monster rubber.

As for durability, I would say Hurricane 3 beats it by a smidge in terms of tackiness longevity. However, I feel Yinhe Jupiter 3's sponge keeps its liveliness for longer and has some good grip in its topsheet to still produce some spin even after it's tack has degraded. Hurricane 3, sadly, can't really grip anymore when it loses it's tack. However, for backhand this doesn't really matter to me since I usually play most of my deep, strong loops and points with my forehand. Backhand rubbers will therefore last me quite a while.

If I had to choose one for my backhand, I'd probably go for Yinhe Jupiter 3, for the following reasons;

1) I'm not backhand dominant so I'll need some free speed from the dynamic sponge.
2) Regular boosting is tiring for me so if I decide to go unboosted this rubber won't fail me.
3) Yinhe Jupiter 3 is cheaper and therefore more bang for the buck.
4) Yinhe Jupiter 3 will be more durable if unboosted compared to a boosted Hurricane 3, but if both are boosted for backhand, they'll still be generally long-lasting since I'm not backhand dominant.

Thanks so much!
How about the weight? Which is lighter?

 

[dprsspins]

Thanks so much!
How about the weight? Which is lighter?

From what I remember (I sold my H3) I felt that the Yinhe is a little lighter than the H3, but I didn't weigh the rubbers. But Chinese rubbers have lots of variance due to questionable QC, so no fair warning on their weights. However QC wise I find Yinhe rubbers to be slightly better than DHS rubbers.

 

[Larshos]

Have you considered Dig Dipper 38? Also very good on BH IMO. Easier to use than J3, I think.

 

[dprsspins]

Have you considered Dig Dipper 38? Also very good on BH IMO. Easier to use than J3, I think.

Big Dipper is less of a chinese traditional rubber, more of a true hybrid. To me this is the better choice for backhand because my forehand is wide-stroke but my backhand prefer short-stroke

 

[DBsystem78]

I use the big dipper V on all my blades for backhand it's amazing and doesn't require boost (usually 38 dg)

 

[dprsspins]

I use the big dipper V on all my blades for backhand it's amazing and doesn't require boost (usually 38 dg)

Cool. How do you compare the Big Dipper V H38's catapult to tensor rubbers like Rozena or Vega X?
Rozena is my favourite backhand rubber of all time, once you go spring sponge you cannot go back

 

[DBsystem78]

Sorry I never tried those rubber I mainly buy Chinese Rubbers for the price ( I tried the Double Fish Volant phoenix and the Hurricane 38 neo) before the Big dipper V the catapult is very good I can even topspin against backspin with consistance , the double fish was too slow but good practice rubber and the hurricane 3 too difficult for me for backhand and too slow I don't put much Spin , recently I bought the DHS Gold Arc 8 but didn't try It yet

 

[Love_TT]

From what I remember (I sold my H3) I felt that the Yinhe is a little lighter than the H3, but I didn't weigh the rubbers. But Chinese rubbers have lots of variance due to questionable QC, so no fair warning on their weights. However QC wise I find Yinhe rubbers to be slightly better than DHS rubbers.

I think I will continue using Dignics 05 in 1.9 mm on my backhand. When using Chinese rubbers, I can execute flicks well, but the overall speed feels too slow, and I find it difficult to control the rhythm effectively enough to take full advantage of it, as top players do

 

[PenHoldSandro]

For me, I would suggest J3 on the back. It's more even on both wings compared to H3. But if youre coming of D05, just pick 09c maybe.