Daily Table Tennis Chit Chat

[UpSideDownCarl]

Some forums at year end/start do a best of the forum - most informative technical thread/post; most funniest thread/post; etc.

TTD didn't do any?

That's because there are a few posters who, 10-15 times a year will announce: "This is the post of the year!" So, say an average of 12 best posts a per user and approximately 10 guys in the habit of doing that besides me, that means there are likely well over 100 best posts of the year. So I will nominate most of KillerspinTT's posts from 2015 as the best post from 2016. And then I will nominate all of DTop's posts from any year you'd like as the best post of 2016. And Der_Echte definitely gets the funniest posts. And NextLevel the most informative post, pick any. Take 'em all! And all the times that Suga D has posted that video: "Cocain's a hell of a drug." And all of the posts where OSPH asks for the 9 point handicap. Who else....so many more to mention that I am leaving out or forgetting. All of you who I don't have time to mention, your posts are the best post of 2016 too.


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[NextLevel]

Yes. And if for some reason they don't, which is semi impossible without some defect, the position of the shoulders is the best indicator for how much you can bring into the shot. In fact, when Brett was here, he kept on telling us that even before moving for a ball, once you intend to play a forehand, the first thing you should do is turn your shoulders. There is a deeper logic to it, but basically, it forces you to have the backswing ready on time.

Just to add, and you guys probably already know this, but the first thing you should do when playing a forehand topspin, and one of the most important, is to ensure your right foot is slightly behind your left foot (opposite for left handers).You should turn your shoulders as you move to this position. This allows for more power when playing the stroke as it forces you to turn you hips/shoulders as you play the stroke (to play the ball in the right direction), as well as improving balance.

Im sure you guys will be aware of this, but just want to make sure no-one is underestimating the importance of footwork and positioning

Okay, let me explain.

You can play FH topspins from a practically (not fully) square position, but in order to do this you must get low to the ground and have very strong legs, as perfectly demonstrated by our lovely assistant FZD. It also takes a lot of practice to do this at a high level. Top professionals, and arguably mostly the Chinese, do this a lot. In fact, ZJK does it more than most in my opinion.

If you are still a developing/amateur player, and do not practice 6 hours a day or have the powerful legs of FZD, It Is better to have one leg slightly behind the other to give you that power and weight transfer.

HOWEVER, What I think we will see, and are starting to see (as you pointed out) is a move towards a squarer stance and increased need to be physically fit and strong as playing square FH's means you are perfectly set up to play a BH, a shot which as you all know is massively increasing in popularity at the moment!

I hope this makes sense.

Just noting for the record...

 

[Archosaurus]

How much can that "turning shoulders before moving to ball" be applied generally?

It sounds like it could be done very wrong: but I haven't tried it!

 

[Boogar]

I just watched the story about the New York Ping Pong Hustler.
What do you guys think about the hardbat game? And has the new sponged racket taken away from the game?

I can understand his point that the sport may not be as much fun to watch. However they are two total different sports.
What I don't like is how he whines so much and how incredible overbearing he behaves.

The guy is kinda cool, but really not a guy i want to be friends with xD well maybe for playing some games, but not for money!

 

[OldschoolPenholder]

Bully!

That's because there are a few posters who, 10-15 times a year will announce: "This is the post of the year!" So, say an average of 12 best posts a per user and approximately 10 guys in the habit of doing that besides me, that means there are likely well over 100 best posts of the year. So I will nominate most of KillerspinTT's posts from 2015 as the best post from 2016. And then I will nominate all of DTop's posts from any year you'd like as the best post of 2016. And Der_Echte definitely gets the funniest posts. And NextLevel the most informative post, pick any. Take 'em all! And all the times that Suga D has posted that video: "Cocain's a hell of a drug." And all of the posts where OSPH asks for the 9 point handicap. Who else....so many more to mention that I am leaving out or forgetting. All of you who I don't have time to mention, your posts are the best post of 2016 too.


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[Boogar]

How much can that "turning shoulders before moving to ball" be applied generally?

It sounds like it could be done very wrong: but I haven't tried it!

How do you wan't to hit a forehand loop without turning your shoulders first??

 

[NextLevel]

Here is the most recent US Open hard bat final:

 

[OldschoolPenholder]

Carl,

Is there a pic of Ping Pong Hustler at SPIN? Vaguely recall a pic of someone that looks vaguely like him.

I just watched the story about the New York Ping Pong Hustler.
What do you guys think about the hardbat game? And has the new sponged racket taken away from the game?

I can understand his point that the sport may not be as much fun to watch. However they are two total different sports.
What I don't like is how he whines so much and how incredible overbearing he behaves.

The guy is kinda cool, but really not a guy i want to be friends with xD well maybe for playing some games, but not for money!

 

[OldschoolPenholder]

Leaving work and going home

4,332 posts
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wonder what the numbers will read on monday

 

[Archosaurus]

How do you wan't to hit a forehand loop without turning your shoulders first??

If we take it literally and always move the shoulders first before moving the legs, won't it be possible to overdo it sometimes and compromise movement?

 

[Shuki]

that was the first thing I noticed when I went into spin, marty on the wall ^.^

 

[Shuki]

Actually I took a picture

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[NextLevel]

Yesterday evening, I had a troubling experience.

I forgot my rackets at home despite showing up with the rest of my coaching gear ( had something to do with my cleaning lady). I was lent a racket by a friend - it happened to be the racket of a friend who was now in Vegas. And who bought the racket initially? Me! My friend had sanded the handle a little, added grip tape and put on two extremely light Nittaku rubbers. I coached with the racket. It was a 79g anatomic Clipper Wood when I first had it. With the light rubbers and everything else, it was 160g in weight.

So I coached and played with it. I probably played at least as well with it as I do with my current set up, maybe I missed more back hands but the lighter racket allowed me to swing faster. Wasn't particularly heavy either. Was amble the loop from distance as well at the table. Blocking too.

So why am I using a 188g setup?

 

[Boogar]

If we take it literally and always move the shoulders first before moving the legs, won't it be possible to overdo it sometimes and compromise movement?

Not before, at the same time. And then it wouldn't really be a loop, more like a block or counter hit at most.

 

[Shuki]

@nl

I've wondered about the weight of your blade for a while. with how you like to go through the ball quicker, I really thought you'd be all about lightweight blades. Especially for creating spin close to the table.

 

[OldschoolPenholder]

YES!

very cool Shuki, thank you!

Actually I took a picture

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[OldschoolPenholder]

With the light rubbers and everything else, it was 160g in weight.

...

So why am I using a 188g setup?

To get your "guns" bigger than PPH?

 

[Boogar]

Actually I took a picture

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Awesome! !

 

[Boogar]

Ahh i want to play so bad Haven't played for 3 weeks now... im starting to play against myself in my room.

 

[NextLevel]

Not before, at the same time. And then it wouldn't really be a loop, more like a block or counter hit at most.

Yes, the point is not that the feet should not move - they almost always do. The point is that if you think of the first move as turning your shoulders, it is very hard to be in a position where you do not swing at the ball with a reasonable stroke.