Difference between Curl p1v an Curl p3av?

[Leo2]

Hi!

I was wondering if there was anybody who could tell me how the Curl p1v and p3av differ from each other? I am most interested in how they differ in service returns close to the table and chops from medium to far disctance from the table, prefarably in 1,0 or 1,5 sponge thicknes but any info i can get is fine.

 

[UncleJong]

[at close-to-the-table, both with 1.5mm sponge]

friction: p1v ~= p3av
easy to push (chop): p3av > P1v
spin level on push (chop): p3av >> p1v
push attack (with pips) : p1v > p3av
side swipe: p1v > p3av
chop block: p1v > p3av (both are difficult with thick spone)
flip attack : p3av > p1v
deal with no-spin: p3av > p1v
affected by serve spin: p3av >> p1v
deceptiveness: p3av > p1v
smash: p3av > p1v (blade actaully plays an important role too)
loop: p3av >p1v (blade actaully plays an important role too)

about how thick-sponge p1v plays like close-to-the table, you can check Joo sae hyuk's game plays.

 

[greenbeanmachine]

What's the difference between p3aV and p3V?

 

[belllfador]

P3aV has shorter pips that can bend easily. The level of spin is very high for LP, but also spin sensibility. As a result, P3aV with 1.5mm sponge plays closer to inverted rubber with an option for spin manipulation. Find P1V more difficult to control and more disturbing for the opponent, with lower spin and attacking capabilities. More controllable but less dangerous is P3V.

 

[J-fed]

P3aV has shorter pips that can bend easily. The level of spin is very high for LP, but also spin sensibility. As a result, P3aV with 1.5mm sponge plays closer to inverted rubber with an option for spin manipulation. Find P1V more difficult to control and more disturbing for the opponent, with lower spin and attacking capabilities. More controllable but less dangerous is P3V.

I a big fan of P3v. Used it for about 7 months until August.,
It’s still pretty fine and bendy compared to regular LPs. Can drop the ball really short and the pace disturbance is very tricky for players at my level (good but fallible).
Not as easy to come to terms with as a basic feint long 2. Much more nuanced and takes time to learn.
IDK if I’d recommend such rubbers but I really enjoyed it on my allround blade.
Now it’s on my Swat carbon which is the spare. Doesn’t work so well for me there where Feint indeed did.

 

[piligrim]

P3aV has shorter pips that can bend easily. The level of spin is very high for LP, but also spin sensibility. As a result, P3aV with 1.5mm sponge plays closer to inverted rubber with an option for spin manipulation. Find P1V more difficult to control and more disturbing for the opponent, with lower spin and attacking capabilities. More controllable but less dangerous is P3V.

Can you compare to P4V?

 

[greenbeanmachine]

P3aV has shorter pips that can bend easily. The level of spin is very high for LP, but also spin sensibility. As a result, P3aV with 1.5mm sponge plays closer to inverted rubber with an option for spin manipulation. Find P1V more difficult to control and more disturbing for the opponent, with lower spin and attacking capabilities. More controllable but less dangerous is P3V.

Would you say that P3aV is more similar to a short pip than other long pips? I am currently chopping with short pips but it is too difficult for me to return high quality topspins. Feint Long II and III were easy to use, but can't make much of their own spin -- not enough to prevent the opponent from attacking hard. I am looking for something in between which can still generate enough backspin on dead balls to prevent a bomba attack.

It’s still pretty fine and bendy compared to regular LPs.

What counts as bendy? More bendy than Feint Long?