dignics 09c vs dignics 05

[ripctt2]

After using hurricnae 3 and hurricane 8 (both unboosted + commercial vers), finally switching to a new racket, I've decided to go the fzd alc + dignics 80 bh. But my dilema is between d05 and d09c for fh. I came from using dead unboosted h3 and i foun it hard to loop and now i cant decide between d05 or d09c. I initally didnt want tacky rubber cuz it would attract too much dust and one tackiness is gone, basically some spin is also gone (but maybe they aslt longer idk). so idk d05 or d09c but like i want smth fast spinny yet controllable. like basically something easy to loop with and like has good ease of use.

 

[chinacurious]

One more week and you could get Zyre 03

 

[ripctt2]

Is zyre-03 also as fast as the dignics line? Like i need something that's easier to return serves as im not that good at reading serves. also the price tag.
But out of d05 and d09c what would you like have? is there any comparison? FOr close to table play etc... LIke is it easier to overshoot with d05 or d09c.
edit; still want like a fast rubber with loads of spin. Also im not willing to boost my rubbers so...)

 

[Tyce]

If you want something easier to return serves, why are you looking at anything in the Tenergy and Dignics family in the first place? You need a rubber that's more forgiving and easy to use, getting something super powerful and using maybe 10% of it is a waste of money and stunts your growth.

 

[ripctt2]

idk. ive never tried, i tried dignics 64 i like the feel but it was way too fast. im not saying i need something super ewasy to do serve receive. more like, its not gonna be like side spin and you like return normally, it gonna be very hard to clear the net stuff like that. Also like the blade i prob will use fzd alc since i liked the timo boll alc which has the same comp so im assuming its going to be the same if not very similar

 

[NetProphet]

Is zyre-03 also as fast as the dignics line? Like i need something that's easier to return serves as im not that good at reading serves. also the price tag.
But out of d05 and d09c what would you like have? is there any comparison? FOr close to table play etc... LIke is it easier to overshoot with d05 or d09c.
edit; still want like a fast rubber with loads of spin. Also im not willing to boost my rubbers so...)

If I were you I'd read the reviews at Racket Insight, two very good and indepth reviews on the 09c and the 05.
I've read them both but can't really remember the biggest differences and although I use 09c I haven't used D05 so can't help you there.
I do have D80 on my BH and thoroughly recomm it as a BH rubber!

Butterfly Dignics 05 Review - Is It Right For You? (2026) - Racket Insight

We played for over 50 hours to build this Dignics 05 review, a rubber that brings a reputation for being the best balance of spin, power, and control. Would it be a good rubber for your game? Find out here.

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[Review] Is Butterfly's Dignics 09c The Best Rubber Ever? - Racket Insight

Dignics 09c is the best rubber money can buy. I fell in love after playing with it for 40+ hours, so let me explain why it's so good in this Dignics 09c review.

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[ripctt2]

If I were you I'd read the reviews at Racket Insight, two very good and indepth reviews on the 09c and the 05.
I've read them both but can't really remember the biggest differences and although I use 09c I haven't used D05 so can't help you there.
I do have D80 on my BH and thoroughly recomm it as a BH rubber!

Butterfly Dignics 05 Review - Is It Right For You? (2026) - Racket Insight

We played for over 50 hours to build this Dignics 05 review, a rubber that brings a reputation for being the best balance of spin, power, and control. Would it be a good rubber for your game? Find out here.

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[Review] Is Butterfly's Dignics 09c The Best Rubber Ever? - Racket Insight

Dignics 09c is the best rubber money can buy. I fell in love after playing with it for 40+ hours, so let me explain why it's so good in this Dignics 09c review.

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Alright thanks so much.

 

[XpingpingpongpongX]

Borrowing your post for a side question. I was using H3 for FH and Battle 2 for BH. both rubbers were unboosted commercial. Now using G1 max on both FH and BH. The transition was good, and I think G1 is easier to play with. I have no complaint and don't think I need to change. But I also wonder, G1 was released like 10 years ago, is it outdated to today's game? Is there any other rubbers (with similar price and durability) that are considered an upgrade to G1?

I tried other people's rubbers - just a few minutes of random hitting. T05, D05, V15, and boosted H3 are bouncier, D09C is about the same, of course I know the blades are different so it's not direct comparison. But I didn't feel they are obviously better than G1. Maybe it does not matter much to my level yet.

 

[ripctt2]

@NetProphet it says high swing speed but im unsure how this compared to my previous setup, or you could say current setup as i havent changed yet, doesnt it have a good catapult effect? So like marginally less force required than hurricane 3? Also i did initally also consider d80 both sides. How do you think that would compare?

 

[Yurifi]

I am playing with Dignics09C on FH and Dignics05 on BH. but of course, also tried vice-versa. Dignics05 is faster and way bouncier than Dignics09C, but D09c has more gears, mostly because it is not as bouncy and you can play nice and easy, slowly. you can with D05, too, of course, but more care is needed. control wise, the D09c has more. spin wise, both are monsters. dwell wise - 05 has way more, so much so, that I find it actually disturbing, at least on BH. feel wise - both are nice, you have a good sense of what is going on during the stroke.

but mostly because of bounciness and extreme dwell (maybe blade has something to do with it, too), this is why I am switching (they just called me yesterday from the club that my D09c came) to D09c on both sides now.

 

[ripctt2]

I am playing with Dignics09C on FH and Dignics05 on BH. but of course, also tried vice-versa. Dignics05 is faster and way bouncier than Dignics09C, but D09c has more gears, mostly because it is not as bouncy and you can play nice and easy, slowly. you can with D05, too, of course, but more care is needed. control wise, the D09c has more. spin wise, both are monsters. dwell wise - 05 has way more, so much so, that I find it actually disturbing, at least on BH. feel wise - both are nice, you have a good sense of what is going on during the stroke.

but mostly because of bounciness and extreme dwell (maybe blade has something to do with it, too), this is why I am switching (they just called me yesterday from the club that my D09c came) to D09c on both sides now.

For dignics 05 and dignics 09c, like are they both similar in how they compare to like forehand and bh shots? Like is it similar in how they react to the ball and how far they go deep into the table? So like as in is either one easier to overshoot more?

 

[Yurifi]

For dignics 05 and dignics 09c, like are they both similar in how they compare to like forehand and bh shots? Like is it similar in how they react to the ball and how far they go deep into the table? So like as in is either one easier to overshoot more?

you won't really overshoot, but they play quite different.

 

[ripctt2]

you won't really overshoot, but they play quite different.

So like both are quite safe to play or like one isnt easier to overshoot than the other?
So like if someone has solid fh and bh technique, tehy probably won't struggle with overshooting, just needs time to adjust?

 

[Yurifi]

I mean, I don't know how good your technique is, and how good of a player you are - but for me, speed and control are not an issue, problem is dwell time, because a lot of times I have a feeling like I already made the stroke, but the ball is still sitting in the sponge, if you understand me ... but still, I can play effectively and also good with this rubber ... but like D09c on BH more. I mean, D09c is becoming one of the best rubbers I have played with so far ...

maybe if you try 1.9 thickness it would be less "dwelly" ...

 

[ripctt2]

I mean, I don't know how good your technique is, and how good of a player you are - but for me, speed and control are not an issue, problem is dwell time, because a lot of times I have a feeling like I already made the stroke, but the ball is still sitting in the sponge, if you understand me ... but still, I can play effectively and also good with this rubber ... but like D09c on BH more. I mean, D09c is becoming one of the best rubbers I have played with so far ...

I would say i have solid fh and bh technique but i found it difficult to loop with worn out h3 unboosted commercial vers so like idk. cuz like i used a rubber that had already lost most of it's spin.

 

[steve888]

I dont hit hard so I find the Dignics 05 easier to drive and better all round for me, its a little softer easier to get speed out of it. The 09c I must is a little better with close up touch shots and a littel spinner but find it harder to drive it and its easy for me to hit into the net or do to slower shots and then the opponent attacks.

 

[Yurifi]

that's why I asked @ripctt2 how good he is and how good his technique is ... because, as good as Dignics09c is, it is also quite demanding. but there are several times when I hit the ball, I can hear that speed glue sound - not everytime, but when I am 100% with timing and the whole stroke comes together, from the legs up - the sound comes and usually the shot is a winner.

 

[TampaBayTableTennis]

coming from boosted h3, 09c is the logical choice between D09c/05, in my opinion

 

[Tyce]

Easier to return serves than H3/H8? Doesn't really exist and definitely not by getting a high speed blade paired with high end tensor rubbers.

What blade are you even coming from? And, as others have asked, what's your level? Experience? Do you have a club, coach or whatever, or do you play with your friends without any structural training?

There's not much context to base proper advice on, but from what I think I see between the lines you're falling for the everlasting trap of thinking powerful blades and rubbers compensate for weakness in technique and lack of experience.

They don't. Fast stuff will either end up making you miss a lot of balls attacking, or becoming overly careful and never get to play with more than the topsheet of the rubber.

The catch is, if you are honestly skilled enough to switch to such gear, the chances are extremely low that you have to take advice from random people on this forum instead of your coach, teammates, or friends who are also serious level players.

 

[ripctt2]

Easier to return serves than H3/H8? Doesn't really exist and definitely not by getting a high speed blade paired with high end tensor rubbers.

What blade are you even coming from? And, as others have asked, what's your level? Experience? Do you have a club, coach or whatever, or do you play with your friends without any structural training?

There's not much context to base proper advice on, but from what I think I see between the lines you're falling for the everlasting trap of thinking powerful blades and rubbers compensate for weakness in technique and lack of experience.

They don't. Fast stuff will either end up making you miss a lot of balls attacking, or becoming overly careful and never get to play with more than the topsheet of the rubber.

The catch is, if you are honestly skilled enough to switch to such gear, the chances are extremely low that you have to take advice from random people on this forum instead of your coach, teammates, or friends who are also serious level players.

I have a coach. I came from a carbon blade I need to check which. It’s dhs.