Does anyone try K3 pro?
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I don’t own any of B2 but a few days ago I try a blade of my friend Joola Zhou Qihao 90 , B2 blue sponge national version and Joola Acc. B3 has higher throw.
As a long time user of the normal K3 and I accidentally bought a sheet of K3 Pro. I just played 2 training sessions with it. Unsurprisingly, the rubber plays like... a bit harder K3. Slightly faster, better in blocking, short game and counterspin, but also less forgiving in the open ups and out of position shots. Serving seems to be about the same. I can't comment on the durability yet, but I am curious if there are going to be any differences in longevity and performance over time.
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Normally, in your experience ,when does K3 durability will start to decrease ? I still play with k3 pro since the day I post in this forum without any booster but durability is still too early to say.
As you are a longtime k3 user , do you notice any difference of top sheet between normal and pro version. Or is it same?
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I’m playing with my TT mate 3x a week and he uses K3 on FH and D80. We did an order in March when I bought my TB ZLF i glued T19+T05, he above mentioned rubbers. His D80 is still doing good, my Tenergies are almost brand new, and last week I ordered him 3rd K3… 🤣🤣
Thank you & Goodbye in terms of durability of K3 but he says that nothing plays as good as K3…. 🤷♂️
Thank you & Goodbye in terms of durability of K3 but he says that nothing plays as good as K3…. 🤷♂️
I only played with Rakza Z on my own blade which is obviously a lot slower and has a higher throw angle. It also feels subjectively softer even than regular K3 and remains tacky for a lot lot longer. Razka Z is also the most linear hybrid I played with, meaning it gives out about the same speed you put into it, which contributes to its very good control. However it was definitely too slow for my forehand and you had to use your body A LOT (meaning really swinging your whole body weight) to get the required speed anywhere further from the table. Comparing both rubbers to K3 PRO, differences are probably similar but more extreme.
I have also played with Dignics 09c on my friends rackets and it has a totally different feeling to K3. It feels a bit more catapult-ish (not in the level of something like T05, but more than a somewhat fresh K3) with the higher throw angle, which made me play a lot of balls out. That could have also been caused by the faster blade I tried it on compared to mine. I will try to hit again with the 09c to directly compare its speed to K3 PRO, that's what might be interesting.
The main thing that gives out for me the fastest on the K3 is the topsheet. Here is why you sometimes might see different views on the K3 durability - if you are on a high level, you probably will benefit more from the tackiness of the rubber and notice it going away more. If you are on a intermediate to advanced level you will be able to play with it successfully for a lot longer. For me it decays linearly - after a month of playing 3 times a week the central spot of the rubber is usually worn out of the initial tackiness, still grippy though (like a Fastarc G1). With that you will loose some of the benefits of this rubber, like amazing counter topspin abilities and it will change it's characteristics slightly, but will still continue to be a great rubber in my view. Then around after 4 months the rubber will get beat up and even the grippiness would not be enough for a enjoyable play and you will notice that you need to work a lot harder to get the same spin on the ball as before.
To sum up - for me it is a 4 month rubber - 1st month amazing, next 3 months great and after that mediocre
. That's talking about forehand of course, which as a forehand oriented player I use a lot.I played 5-6 sessions with it and I would say the top sheet feels similar. I had to do 0 adjustments on my serve and it feels exactly the same. I think it is the harder sponge that makes the difference and influences how you perceive the topsheet. Eg. in forehand topspin you feel like you need to pay more attention to properly spinning the ball and have smaller margin for error in the pro version compared to normal one, but in return you get a deadly speed and a topspin quality that is winning you points (mostly speed wise).
PS: the estimated durability times include taking care of the rubber - cleaning the rubber after each training and applying protective foil
Thank you very much for your information.I only played with Rakza Z on my own blade which is obviously a lot slower and has a higher throw angle. It also feels subjectively softer even than regular K3 and remains tacky for a lot lot longer. Razka Z is also the most linear hybrid I played with, meaning it gives out about the same speed you put into it, which contributes to its very good control. However it was definitely too slow for my forehand and you had to use your body A LOT (meaning really swinging your whole body weight) to get the required speed anywhere further from the table. Comparing both rubbers to K3 PRO, differences are probably similar but more extreme.
I have also played with Dignics 09c on my friends rackets and it has a totally different feeling to K3. It feels a bit more catapult-ish (not in the level of something like T05, but more than a somewhat fresh K3) with the higher throw angle, which made me play a lot of balls out. That could have also been caused by the faster blade I tried it on compared to mine. I will try to hit again with the 09c to directly compare its speed to K3 PRO, that's what might be interesting.
The main thing that gives out for me the fastest on the K3 is the topsheet. Here is why you sometimes might see different views on the K3 durability - if you are on a high level, you probably will benefit more from the tackiness of the rubber and notice it going away more. If you are on a intermediate to advanced level you will be able to play with it successfully for a lot longer. For me it decays linearly - after a month of playing 3 times a week the central spot of the rubber is usually worn out of the initial tackiness, still grippy though (like a Fastarc G1). With that you will loose some of the benefits of this rubber, like amazing counter topspin abilities and it will change it's characteristics slightly, but will still continue to be a great rubber in my view. Then around after 4 months the rubber will get beat up and even the grippiness would not be enough for a enjoyable play and you will notice that you need to work a lot harder to get the same spin on the ball as before.
To sum up - for me it is a 4 month rubber - 1st month amazing, next 3 months great and after that mediocre
I played 5-6 sessions with it and I would say the top sheet feels similar. I had to do 0 adjustments on my serve and it feels exactly the same. I think it is the harder sponge that makes the difference and influences how you perceive the topsheet. Eg. in forehand topspin you feel like you need to pay more attention to properly spinning the ball and have smaller margin for error in the pro version compared to normal one, but in return you get a deadly speed and a topspin quality that is winning you points (mostly speed wise).
PS: the estimated durability times include taking care of the rubber - cleaning the rubber after each training and applying protective foil
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Switched to K3 Pro on FH from K2 about 3 weeks ago. So far very happy with it after doing 3 practice sessions each week, plus a weekend tournament.
I agree with Czarny's post above - it plays like a slightly harder K3 (or like a less tacky K2). Somewhat less forgiving than either (but especially K2) in the short game and definitely faster/more powerful than both K3 and K2 when you go for it. Didn't find I had to do much adjustment in my loop technique at all. Grips the ball very well and holds it deeply on my HL5. Managed to break several DHS Dj40+ WTT balls while smashing lobs with it - this rubber is really something
I agree with Czarny's post above - it plays like a slightly harder K3 (or like a less tacky K2). Somewhat less forgiving than either (but especially K2) in the short game and definitely faster/more powerful than both K3 and K2 when you go for it. Didn't find I had to do much adjustment in my loop technique at all. Grips the ball very well and holds it deeply on my HL5. Managed to break several DHS Dj40+ WTT balls while smashing lobs with it - this rubber is really something
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DHS has done it for decades. Modern hurricane 3 is nothing like it used to be a few years ago.
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Same as with any other semi-tacky hybrid rubber. The topsheet gets easily marked, but remains very grippy nevertheless. Imo, k3 pro/c55 remain very playable for at least 3 months.
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My impressions about K3 Pro durability:
1. First 2 weeks it is very cool, I'm in love with the feeling and power and spin and everything
2. Then 2-3 weeks it is still fast but a little bit less, still incredible for me
3. Then 2-3 weeks it gets hard for me, hard to lift underspin balls, easy to hit net when not in position or not applying enough power (like booster that used to soften it is no longer there).
4. Then ~3.5 month it is good grippy rubber (like sponge softened after getting to many hits) with nice speed, spin etc. which just allows me not to think about rubber
5. And after month #5 I starting to get some inconsistency in my shots. Giving it up to 1 month to check whether it is me or it is rubber.
This gives me 6 month of a play time (3 times per week + 1 tournament in a month) and then I replace it. If I had some important competitions, I would prefer to replace it either after 1 month or after 5 months (depending on how important they are) or to boost it a little bit after 1 month.
1. First 2 weeks it is very cool, I'm in love with the feeling and power and spin and everything
2. Then 2-3 weeks it is still fast but a little bit less, still incredible for me
3. Then 2-3 weeks it gets hard for me, hard to lift underspin balls, easy to hit net when not in position or not applying enough power (like booster that used to soften it is no longer there).
4. Then ~3.5 month it is good grippy rubber (like sponge softened after getting to many hits) with nice speed, spin etc. which just allows me not to think about rubber
5. And after month #5 I starting to get some inconsistency in my shots. Giving it up to 1 month to check whether it is me or it is rubber.
This gives me 6 month of a play time (3 times per week + 1 tournament in a month) and then I replace it. If I had some important competitions, I would prefer to replace it either after 1 month or after 5 months (depending on how important they are) or to boost it a little bit after 1 month.
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Tibhar "Pro Tools"... why Avid did not file a lawsuit yet ?
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