Fanzhendong ALC vs VISCARIA

[ML fan]

Please give me review of the 2. I have fzd alc. But curious on viscaria if which of them have more vibration and feels. If it is really much and worth the transition..

Because ttgearlab says that they are just really the same...

 

[K.K]

same blade. only difference is the same between two vis

 

[Conehead]

Yep, they are identical. Only difference is the design of the handle.

 

[ML fan]

Yep, they are identical. Only difference is the design of the handle.

But when you hold the handle? Which is better? Thicker? Fatter?

 

[skyphantom]

But when you hold the handle? Which is better? Thicker? Fatter?

I have read from one forum topic is that fzd has a bit larger handle. Though I haven't had a chance to hold a vis. Haha

 

[Dr Evil]

FZD has a slightly rounder handle. It tends to play a little softer and slower vs Viscaria, just as the Boll Alc tends to play a little harder and faster. Balance is similar to Viscaria, whereas the Boll is a little head heavier. Small differences on average with considerable overlap, but these blades are not identical in my experience as a long time Viscaria user who's tried them all. Probably more due to differences in the manufacturing process and not the materials or basic design.

 

[Conehead]

But when you hold the handle? Which is better? Thicker? Fatter?

They are identical. Only the optical design is different. There is a great summary by TTGEARLAB. Google it, find it, read it.

 

[Tyce]

They are identical. Only the optical design is different. There is a great summary by TTGEARLAB. Google it, find it, read it.

He did, but he trusts random forum advice more I guess.

 

[dingyibvs]

They are identical. Only the optical design is different. There is a great summary by TTGEARLAB. Google it, find it, read it.

They say it's identical, but I'm not sure if they actually tested it. Just look at the numbers, all 4 are exactly the same as Viscaria's. The chances of that happening is pretty small even if you're comparing 2 Viscarias of the same weight from the same batch. Heck, it's pretty small even if you just test the same blade twice.

I have an 89g Vis, and my friend has a 92g Vis, we use the same rubbers. I also have a 89g and a 92g FZD ALC. I also have an 89g ZJK ALC. The 2 Vis and the ZJK all play and feel pretty much identical to each other. The two FZD's do feel a bit different from each other, but they're far closer to each other than to the Vis/ZJK.

 

[kapahoo]

They say it's identical, but I'm not sure if they actually tested it. Just look at the numbers, all 4 are exactly the same as Viscaria's. The chances of that happening is pretty small even if you're comparing 2 Viscarias of the same weight from the same batch. Heck, it's pretty small even if you just test the same blade twice.

I have an 89g Vis, and my friend has a 92g Vis, we use the same rubbers. I also have a 89g and a 92g FZD ALC. I also have an 89g ZJK ALC. The 2 Vis and the ZJK all play and feel pretty much identical to each other. The two FZD's do feel a bit different from each other, but they're far closer to each other than to the Vis/ZJK.

What are the differences?

 

[deepanmania]

I'm using FZD Alc. I've played once with my friend's Viscaria with D05 on both. Feeling-wise, it was a little different. I felt a little more vibration and feedback in Viscaria, whereas my FZD Alc has less feedback and a softer feeling. But I don't know the weight of the Viscaria, and my FZD Alc is around 90-91 gms.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

But when you hold the handle? Which is better? Thicker? Fatter?

This would be down to personal choice. What you like better, what you think is better, will not be the same as what someone else thinks is better.

Every blade is a little different than any other. Every blade has a slightly different weight than any other.

If you took 10 Viscarias, 10 FZD ALCs and 10 TB ALCs they would all be more similar than different. There would be TB ALCs that felt more similar to some of the Viscarias or some of the FZD ALCs than some of the other blades of the same "model".

The look, the handle, they are different. The handle does impact how the blade feels a little. But aside from look and handle, these blades are more similar than different. Put each in your hand and choose which one's handle you like best since that is the biggest difference.

 

[Kobehan27]

Glad there’s at least some consensus that there is a difference between the viscaria and fzd alc blades to justify myself to purchasing the fzd lol 😂 some points in difference im reading is that the handles are different and the fzd is softer, less crisp feeling and better control. Next on my list to feed my EJ hunger!!!

 

[Conehead]

They say it's identical, but I'm not sure if they actually tested it. Just look at the numbers, all 4 are exactly the same as Viscaria's. The chances of that happening is pretty small even if you're comparing 2 Viscarias of the same weight from the same batch. Heck, it's pretty small even if you just test the same blade twice.

I have an 89g Vis, and my friend has a 92g Vis, we use the same rubbers. I also have a 89g and a 92g FZD ALC. I also have an 89g ZJK ALC. The 2 Vis and the ZJK all play and feel pretty much identical to each other. The two FZD's do feel a bit different from each other, but they're far closer to each other than to the Vis/ZJK.

Yes, there are certainly also differences within the same model.

 

[Conehead]

I'm using FZD Alc. I've played once with my friend's Viscaria with D05 on both. Feeling-wise, it was a little different. I felt a little more vibration and feedback in Viscaria, whereas my FZD Alc has less feedback and a softer feeling. But I don't know the weight of the Viscaria, and my FZD Alc is around 90-91 gms.

You used the same rubbers, the same thicknesses, the same glue? You said you don't know the weight so actually you cannot compare at all.

 

[JustInThaiM]

I have personally used both blades for a considerable time. I used the Viscaria for approximately 2 years, and the FZD ALC since its release.

There is indeed a difference.

If you would like more feel, I would recommend the FZD ALC. The FZD ALC's dwell time and control is greater than on the Viscaria. The Viscaria is faster, though having a softer feel.

 

[ML fan]

I have personally used both blades for a considerable time. I used the Viscaria for approximately 2 years, and the FZD ALC since its release.

There is indeed a difference.

If you would like more feel, I would recommend the FZD ALC. The FZD ALC's dwell time and control is greater than on the Viscaria. The Viscaria is faster, though having a softer feel.

Thank you for this. How about the handle?
Actually, based on thickness and wideness?
Which is thicker?
If you put flat on table, from down to up of handle
Which is wider? From lefto right of handle.
Fzd vs vis

 

[deepanmania]

I have personally used both blades for a considerable time. I used the Viscaria for approximately 2 years, and the FZD ALC since its release.

There is indeed a difference.

If you would like more feel, I would recommend the FZD ALC. The FZD ALC's dwell time and control is greater than on the Viscaria. The Viscaria is faster, though having a softer feel.

I felt FZD Alc was softer and had less vibration than Vis. However, I agree on the dwell time and control. FZD Alc just feels so natural in the hands.

 

[dingyibvs]

What are the differences?

The FZD ALCs feel flexier, and conversely not quite as direct, with the 92g one feeling stiffer than the 89g one. They both have a bit more woody sound, while the Vis/ZJK have a bit more of the carbon "ping". The Vis/ZJK are both significantly faster with medium powered shots typical in a BH rally, it feels very fast and direct, yet when hit hard they still have a fairly pleasant flex, but you need to hit rather hard to get that. The FZDs' flex can be accessed far easier, it's almost trivial to make the lighter FZD flex.

Overall, the FZDs feel flexier, easier to activate, and creates a shorter arc. I also have an 85g TB ALC, that one is flexy like the FZD but way bouncer than any of the rest of the Viscaria construction blades I have.

 

[deepanmania]

I think weight balancing plays a major role. FZD Alc has a chunkier handle, so it's has a balanced weight distribution and softens the vibration not on a index finger but on the palm whereas Vis's handle is almost closer in construction like FZD. But TB Alc is little head heavy coz of lighter handle, hence it's feeling stiff and bouncier. Never tried ZJK.
Among the three I felt FZD has more control though the difference is very minimal between Vis and FZD.