Fastarc G1 slipping on slow balls?

[Silver smasher]

I am the opposite of an equipment junkie and love my DHS H301with G1 on both sides. I am just a local league player but people say my serves, drives and loops can be scary. However I have a real problem receiving slow balls particularly high, mid table ones I should be killing. It is getting to the stage my club mates are slowing the ball down in the knowledge that I am likely to net or overhit.
I chose G1's after reading great comments on this forum but someone recently mentioned that they can slip on slow balls.
I don't want to change the G1's so can any experts suggest the best way (and mindset) to safely attack a slow, high and possibly spinny ball. Thanks.

 

[merlin el mago]

It all depends how high is the ball:

-Too high = Smash
-Mid high = Counter, smash or chop-block
-High not much = Counter or chop-block

Depends also when you hit the ball:

1-If the ball is inside the table
2-Or if the ball is outside de table

1-Depending your skills and how is coming the ball: more sure chop-block or counter depending your skills
2-You can leave the ball lose all spin hitting when is low than the table so you can drive it or do soft topspin

N.B. If you are a chopper you have to left the ball going to low to chop in the case the ball is long or mid long if not you have to chop-block inside the table.

 

[Nash77]

I have G-1, your issue is not rubber related, it's a technique issue.

 

[b3N]

I am the opposite of an equipment junkie and love my DHS H301with G1 on both sides. I am just a local league player but people say my serves, drives and loops can be scary. However I have a real problem receiving slow balls particularly high, mid table ones I should be killing. It is getting to the stage my club mates are slowing the ball down in the knowledge that I am likely to net or overhit.
I chose G1's after reading great comments on this forum but someone recently mentioned that they can slip on slow balls.
I don't want to change the G1's so can any experts suggest the best way (and mindset) to safely attack a slow, high and possibly spinny ball. Thanks.

It's a technique issue, sure. There's some vital information missing. You didn't say what spin is on it or what's happening after you hit.
Is it going into the net? Long off the table?

 

[MORTtheORT]

I am the opposite of an equipment junkie and love my DHS H301with G1 on both sides. I am just a local league player but people say my serves, drives and loops can be scary. However I have a real problem receiving slow balls particularly high, mid table ones I should be killing. It is getting to the stage my club mates are slowing the ball down in the knowledge that I am likely to net or overhit.
I chose G1's after reading great comments on this forum but someone recently mentioned that they can slip on slow balls.
I don't want to change the G1's so can any experts suggest the best way (and mindset) to safely attack a slow, high and possibly spinny ball. Thanks.

Yes this is a thing with the G1. It is a very good rubber that is particularly great at high energy rallies and it does not react to spin compared to the performance output. The trade off is these rubbish balls situation as it does not grip as well and can slip, particularly in humidity.

For me to overcome this. I have to hit more then with other rubbers to make sure the ball clears the net and the sponge activates. It does take a bit of adjustment to get it right but you will discover that the rubber is very direct when you put the energy into it. You can turn this into a strength of the rubber.

 

[Silver smasher]

Yes this is a thing with the G1. It is a very good rubber that is particularly great at high energy rallies and it does not react to spin compared to the performance output. The trade off is these rubbish balls situation as it does not grip as well and can slip, particularly in humidity.

For me to overcome this. I have to hit more then with other rubbers to make sure the ball clears the net and the sponge activates. It does take a bit of adjustment to get it right but you will discover that the rubber is very direct when you put the energy into it. You can turn this into a strength of the rubber.

Thanks Mort - you have confirmed the issue. G1 is a great rubber but needs effort to get results. My shots against fast balls are great and serves decent if I use good acceleration.
In response to b3N the problem is that the balls are floating or have some backspin but how much is worrying me. I want to topspin but obviously get my angles wrong and net or go long. I try to be careful which means the ball is not fully engaging with the G1's.
Merlin- great suggestions! I will try chop blocking if a little unsure of the spin. It is putting effort into the shot (which the rubbers like) but safer than top spin. Also as NetProphet says I need to work on my footwork and technique!

 

[merlin el mago]

Could be you aren't well positioned before to hit the ball.

 

[kapahoo]

Had the same issue with C1 which has the same topsheet.

 

[Infernal]

I switched to Tenergy 19, and the same balls do not slip anymore, as if by magic.

 

[victormanriquey]

I'm pretty sure this is either:

• 80% to 100% technical issue. Sharing a video with us here would be the best way to know, no shame in doing that, we are all amateurs and we all look worse on video than we think
• 0 to 20% (perhaps) gear issue: how old are the sheets? How do you store the racket? Any other relevant maintenance information?

Overall as others said, it's impossible to give advice without knowing more! But you can be sure that G1 has no slippage problems, it's a very good rubber overall.

 

[Amayzde]

I am the opposite of an equipment junkie and love my DHS H301with G1 on both sides. I am just a local league player but people say my serves, drives and loops can be scary. However I have a real problem receiving slow balls particularly high, mid table ones I should be killing. It is getting to the stage my club mates are slowing the ball down in the knowledge that I am likely to net or overhit.
I chose G1's after reading great comments on this forum but someone recently mentioned that they can slip on slow balls.
I don't want to change the G1's so can any experts suggest the best way (and mindset) to safely attack a slow, high and possibly spinny ball. Thanks.

I wouldnt get to much in your head about it. The topsheet of G-1 is rather hard, so it takes a bit more effort to get a proper grip on slower balls.

But if you are talking about the ball slipping off the rubber and it just falls straight down. That is just human error. Any rubber will slip if the angle you are trying to hit the ball with is too closed.

 

[merlin el mago]

As other people said if Nittaku Fastarc G-1 is slipping for you, isn't the rubber is your skills...

 

[kapahoo]

...or to put it in another way - you are just not used to it yet. If you hit exactly the same way as with your old/other rubber then it might happen but you'll get used to it. If you don't have the patience - get another rubber.

 

[belllfador]

Mima Ito (and some other profy players) disagree.

G1 have good grip. Less than tenergy line and hybrids, but it is more than enough to lift the ball with consistency. And it is a mile a head from Mark V, rubber that is still used by many. G1 is just not good for brushing and have hard top surface that requere pressure with the ball.

 

[b3N]

Thanks Mort - you have confirmed the issue. G1 is a great rubber but needs effort to get results. My shots against fast balls are great and serves decent if I use good acceleration.
In response to b3N the problem is that the balls are floating or have some backspin but how much is worrying me. I want to topspin but obviously get my angles wrong and net or go long. I try to be careful which means the ball is not fully engaging with the G1's.
Merlin- great suggestions! I will try chop blocking if a little unsure of the spin. It is putting effort into the shot (which the rubbers like) but safer than top spin. Also as NetProphet says I need to work on my footwork and technique!

I think the problem is hesitation. If you brush fast enough and commit with enough energy it should be enough.

I was reminded if this video, so try these tips and see if it solves the problem. The technique is different depending on if the incoming ball has forward energy or not. But it sounds like it doesn't have much.