GLUE - Does the brand of glue i choose make a noticeable difference ?

[Larshos]

I'll also add: if you've ever ordered a blade with rubbers affixed for you by TT11 and liked the result, they use Neottec Neofix - one layer on the bat and one on the rubber.

OT, but I believe Neottec is TT11’s in-house brand?

Actually SUKE is rubbish compared to the real SUEKE glue which is the best. Sticks stronger than DHS 15 but comes off in one pull.

Yeah I meant Sueke No. 2. The Suke stuff is decent for the price though

 

[Zwill]

I have tested so many glues and I agree that Sueke no 2 is probably the best of all, I like the Suke no 2 for the extra stronger adherence. It is a great feature if you boost or the blade is a bit slippery and the sponge is also slippery... With Suke no 2 I never had and peeling, with Sueke I had some issue if the sponge doesn't stick to it so well.
I don't think there is a huge difference between the Suke and the Sueke but the adherence strength is one in the favor of Suke, and the softness is in the favor of Sueke. I think every other glue can be ignored be it DHS, Nittaku, Butterfly and god forbid the German glues.
Maybe the German glues are acceptable in case you know what you wanna use and you wanna use it until it lasts. So making a fix setup with German glue is fine, but also with Suke no2.

 

[Flobert]

Where to get Sueke in Europe?

 

[Stywok]

Where to get Sueke in Europe?

Good question I can't even find it on Aliexpress !

 

[Larshos]

Where to get Sueke in Europe?

You have to buy from China I believe

 

[Larshos]

Good question I can't even find it on Aliexpress !

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...teRecommendProducts_35593284.1005005186271776
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...promoteWysiwyg_6001926298671.1005006658482933

And Zero Degree No. 2
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...llitems_choice_2016614007182.1005012655854182

 

[vossi39]

Not using any specific TT glue anymore. I buy liquid Latex for modelling like https://lilatex.de/shop/creativ-latex-1000ml-fluessig.html. I'm sure there is similar products in other countries.

Dries quick enough and can be pulled from the sponge easily.

 

[merlin el mago]

Revolution 3.0 comes in 3 viscosity formats: Normal, Medium & High.

For Chinese hard rubbers or Hybrid hard rubbers with booster is very good also DHS No.15 due to is high viscosity.

Friends also told me Sueke or Suke are good and less expensive but never tried.

 

[Tyce]

Not using any specific TT glue anymore. I buy liquid Latex for modelling like https://lilatex.de/shop/creativ-latex-1000ml-fluessig.html. I'm sure there is similar products in other countries.

Dries quick enough and can be pulled from the sponge easily.

I have used textile repair glue (which is also just latex glue) and honestly found it to handle almost exactly the same as DHS 15

 

[kolzgut]

I just tried the YINHE from Aliexpress. Good and easy to peel

 

[juliusN4033P]

so now between suke no.2, 0 degrees, rxton glue which is the best when removing from the rubber

 

[Archosaurus]

so now between suke no.2, 0 degrees, rxton glue which is the best when removing from the rubber

Depends on the sponge it's applied to honestly. Also on how thick it was applied. You won't get consistent results with all sponges; I've found H3 blue sponge significantly tougher to peel than anything else.

 

[juliusN4033P]

then ill go with zero degrees for my reactor v5

 

[ZSQ]

Zero Degree No. 2 is beginner-friendly. It dries slowly and doesn’t ball up easily.

SUKE No. 2 is cheap and works well, I usually use it. But it dries a bit fast, so it’s more suited to experienced users.

DHS No. 15 is said to enhance elasticity, but I haven’t actually tried it.

 

[Archosaurus]

Zero Degree No. 2 is beginner-friendly. It dries slowly and doesn’t ball up easily.

SUKE No. 2 is cheap and works well, I usually use it. But it dries a bit fast, so it’s more suited to experienced users.

DHS No. 15 is said to enhance elasticity, but I haven’t actually tried it.

SUKE dries very quickly indeed and it likes to become solid even when brushing with the sponge if you put a too thin layer, so I suggest using a little too much than too little. Avoid working the same area a lot. I glue every 2-3 weeks and I still have some minor problems using it perfectly.
However if you're careful and stick to these principles then it's an easy to use glue and it's very workable. You just have to watch out because it has more density than it looks like it has when you initially pour it, and once it's spread out more, it has less density than it looks like it has.

I used N15 quite a bit before and I can't say I noticed any elasticity increase. Maybe if you add tons of layers. Back in the day the instruction was 10 on the blade and 10 on the rubber IIRC, but once the racket control rules changed, it became more conservative 1+2. The glue itself is excellent although maybe slightly weak adhesion, and the included sponge is a little too firm.

 

[Archosaurus]

Tried Zero Degree just now; somehow it's easier to work than SUKE (doesn't become solid when going over it again with too little glue) but it also dries very fast on the blade. Taking a bit longer than SUKE on the sponge, at least from what it looks like.

If it removes well then I don't think I am buying other glues anymore. Sometimes SUKE doesn't have the strength to pull off in one go; especially miserable on DHS's blue sponge.

 

[Kazama]

Zero Degree No. 2 is the best I’ve ever used
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And Sueke No. 2 as a strong number two.

Is the viscosity and bonding similar to Sueke No. 2? Sueke No. 2 is excellent for boosted Hurricanes, even if the sponge is oily it spreads well and the adhesion to blade is nice and strong even if I glue when the rubber is rolled up.

 

[Larshos]

I haven’t used S2 in a while now, but as I recall, ZD2 is more viscous and has slightly stronger adhesion.
ZD2 is probably somewhere between S2 and DHS No. 15 in viscosity.