JTTA Selection Trial for ATTC 2026 and WTTC Continental Stage 2027, 5/26-27

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Yahoo News users also can't help but notice the lack of unity...

日本女子 連覇逃す 中国に敗れて銀メダル 50年ぶりの奇跡再現ならず【卓球 アジア選手権】
https://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/tabletennis/news/2025/10/040523.html
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/aa9f119bb09f88779f163a3dd3b2caa2010aa124/comments
har********
3時間前
昨年は3-1で中国を倒しての優勝だったけど、現在の実力から考えると伊藤と平野がトップから外されるのは仕方ないのかな。
昨年の映像見ると渡辺監督は見守ってる感じでベンチでの選手へのアドバイスは平野、伊藤、早田がそれぞれアドバイスしていてチーム全体が「中国に勝つんだ!」という気持ちにあふれてた。
平野と伊藤がベンチにいないのは寂しいね、
(Last year, the team won the championship by defeating China 3-1, but given their current level of ability, it's probably inevitable that Ito and Hirano are no longer in the top spots.
Watching footage from last year, Coach Watanabe seemed to be watching over the team, with Hirano, Ito, and Hayata each giving advice to the players on the bench. The entire team was filled with the determination to beat China!
It's sad that Hirano and Ito aren't on the bench.
)
11 concur, 0 ic, 3 hmm

the********
18時間前
まず、サッカーや野球みたいに監督のコメントを聞いてみたい。
男子があれだけ中国に肉薄したところを見せられると、女子も同じように出来ると思ってしまう。
卓球の代表監督の影響や責任がどれだけあるかわからないが、男子は岸川監督になってから全体的に良くなってきているイメージだが、女子は中澤監督になってから中国とは差が開いたイメージ。
結果が出なかったこともあるが、ベンチでの指揮やアドバイスがうまくいっていない感じもする。
(First, I'd like to hear the coach's comments, just like in soccer and baseball.
Seeing how close the men's team came to China makes me think the women's team can do the same.
I'm not sure how much influence or responsibility the table tennis national team coach has, but I get the impression that the men's team has improved overall since Coach Kishigawa took over, while the women's team seems to have widened the gap with China since Coach Nakazawa took over.
It's not just that they haven't seen results, but it also seems like their coaching and advice from the bench haven't been working.)
52 concur, 8 ic, 19 hmm
lil********
6時間前
卓球って女子のほうが男子より中国と差があるんですよ。wttの大会見てればなんとなく分かるけと、女子は最近準決勝で全員か3人が中国選手だったり、決勝もほぼ孫とマンユだったりですが、男子は準決勝で最近2人か1人しか中国選手がいない。それくらい女子のほうが差がある
(In table tennis, the gap between the women's team and China is bigger than the men's. If you watch the WTT tournaments, you can kind of see that recently, all or 3 women's semifinals have been Chinese players, and the finals have mostly been between Sun and Manyu. Meanwhile, in the men's semifinals, there's only been 2 or 1 Chinese player. That's how big the gap is between the women's team and China)
7 concur, 1 ic, 0 hmm

yuk********
22時間前
中国に勝つにはまだまだ道のりは遠い事を実感しました。カットマンの橋本選手に期待しましたが研究を重ねる中国選手には通用しませんでした。
今後は張本、大藤、早田、橋本選手が軸になって打倒中国を目指して欲しいです。
応援してます!
(I realized that we still have a long way to go before we can beat China. I had high hopes for cutman player Hashimoto, but she didn't work against the Chinese players, who have put in a lot of effort.
I hope that Harimoto, Odo, Hayata, and Hashimoto will become the core players in their quest to defeat China.
I'm rooting for you!)
115 concur, 31 ic, 97 hmm
xog********
17時間前
それでも、橋本選手はあまり調子が良くないのにこの間のチャイナスマッシュ優勝のマンユーから第1ゲーム取ってしまうんだから。他の選手では 実質、無理でしよ(笑)結果中国のツートップには勝てないのなら、橋本選手を3番手で確実に1勝取るのもありだったかもな。橋本なら中国の3番手以降の選手ならほぼ勝てるから(笑)特にクワイマンならストレートで勝てますね、カット対策苦手そうだし。
(Even so, Hashimoto wasn't in top form, yet she still managed to take the first game against Manyu, the recent China Smash winner. It would have been virtually impossible for any other player to do that (LOL). If she couldn't beat the top 2 Chinese players, it might have been a good idea to have Hashimoto as the 3rd singles player to ensure she got a win. Hashimoto can beat almost any Chinese player ranked 3rd or lower (LOL). She'd especially likely win against KM in straight games, since she seems to have trouble dealing with cuts.)
7 concur, 0 ic, 30 hmm

ロートル
22時間前
準優勝はランキング通りの順当な結果。1番手の橋本選手は緊張気味で力が出し切れなかった様に思えた。張本・早田選手は頑張ったが中国の壁は厚く高かった。それ以上に気になったのは、チームの盛り上がりと言うか盛り上げ感が薄くチーム一体感が感じ取れなかった。
(The runner-up finish was a natural result, as expected given the rankings. Leading player Hashimoto seemed a bit nervous and didn't perform to her full potential. Harimoto and Hayata tried their best, but the Chinese wall was too high. What bothered me more was the lack of enthusiasm or excitement within the team, and the sense of unity was lacking.)
136 concur, 22 ic, 21 hmm

jan********
22時間前
クワイマン強くなったな。
早田の引き出しの多さにやられると思ったけど、しっかり対応して、純粋なパワーでは上回った。
インシャとマンユは盤石過ぎる。
中国チーム優勝おめでとう。
(KM has gotten stronger.
I thought she'd be overwhelmed by Hayata's versatility, but she responded well and outclassed her in sheer power.
Yingsha and Manyu are incredibly solid.
Congratulations to Team China on their victory.
)
163 concur, 8 ic, 20 hmm
nfr********
17時間前
橋本選手以外、細かいデータはどうでも良いと考えてる方がいらっしゃるようで。
(Other than Hashimoto, it seems there are some people who don't care about the detailed data.)
15 concur, 1 ic, 5 hmm
xog********
22時間前
いやいや、クワイマンはトップ2に比べたら3枚くらい落ちる選手だから(笑)この間のチャイナスマッシュでもランキング30位台の韓国選手にアッサリ負けましたから。結果3番手に橋本選手なら1勝は間違いなく出来ましたよ。
(No, no, KM is about 3 levels below the top 2 (LOL). She was easily defeated by a Korean player ranked in the 30s at the recent China Smash. In the end, Hashimoto, as the 3rd singles, could definitely have won a match.)
20 concur, 6 ic, 107 hmm
jan********
22時間前
シンユビンをランキング30位台とか大嘘つくのはやめましょう。
(Let's stop lying and saying Shin Yubin is ranked in the 30s.)
78 concur, 2 ic, 8 hmm

nob********
20時間前
中国の戦術コーチのレベルの高さを思い知らされます。伊藤は全く通用せず大藤も通用しなくなった。日本はひたすら練習するのではなくもうワンランク上の戦術を学ばなければ中国との差はまたひらくだけでしょう。
(This really shows the high level of China's tactical coaching. Ito has become completely ineffective, and Odo is no longer effective. Japan needs to learn more advanced tactics instead of just practicing nonstop, otherwise the gap with China will only widen again.)
67 concur, 7 ic, 5 hmm

wsy********
22時間前
男子と比べて、あまりにひどかった。チームがバラバラに感じてしまった。監督はむきにしゃべり過ぎだし、まとまってなく何かバラバラ……?これは前途多難で厳しいです。帆乃香さんは対策されているので、いいコーチつけて下さい!
(Compared to the mens' team, the womens' team was far worse. It felt like the team was disjointed. The coach was too talkative, seemed disorganized and bla bla bla...? This is a tough road ahead. Measures have been taken against Honoka, so please hire a good coach!)
105 concur, 17 ic, 34 hmm
gaj********
21時間前
昨年と比べて(メンバー違いますが)チームが一体化していないように見受けられます。団体戦なのでバラバラで勝てません。早田選手の試合でセット終わってベンチもどったときの美和選手との距離感、とても気になりました。やはり横浜のが後引いてるようにみてしまいます
(Compared to last year (though the members are different), the team seems less unified. It's a team competition, so we can't win if we're disjointed. I was particularly concerned about the distance between Hayata and Miwa when Hayata returned to the bench after her match. It seems like Yokohama is still haunting)
56 concur, 9 ic, 5 hmm
oaz********
22時間前
こんなチームおかしいと感じました。中澤さんわかります。あの横浜からおかしいまとまりない。これでは勝てません。中澤さん退任してあの横浜の話したらどうでしょう、こんなチーム勝てません。勝ちたい感一切なかったです。誰のせいですか?あの早田さんの事です。日本卓球女子本当におかしい。何とか解決いないと張本選手が気の毒です。
(I felt something was wrong with this team. Nakazawa-san knows why. It has been like this since Yokohama. They can't win like this. What if Nakazawa-san resigned for Yokohama? This team just couldn't win. They had no desire to win at all. Who's to blame? I'm talking about Hayata-san. Japan's women's table tennis team is really messed up. I feel sorry for Harimoto if it doesn't get resolved.)
54 concur, 4 ic, 63 hmm

rin*******
22時間前
さすが中国…どの選手も相手の球に慣れるのが早く、本当に強いですね
橋本選手は緊張しているようにも見えましたが、よく対応していて、今後楽しみになりました
張本美和選手は孫選手相手に鋭いラリーなどもあり、また今後、ますます期待…応援しています
早田選手の手首は、強打していてもゲーム間にマッサージ必要なく?、なんともないのかな?…やっぱり???
(As expected of China... All the players quickly adapted to their opponents' shots and are truly strong
Hashimoto seemed nervous, but she handled it well, and I'm looking forward to seeing her in the future
Harimoto Miwa had some sharp rallies against Sun, and I'm looking forward to seeing her in the future... I'm rooting for her
Hayada's wrist doesn't need massage between games, even though she's hitting hard? Is she fine? ...Really???)
94 concur, 2 ic, 50 hmm
comy********
13時間前
早田は土壇場で中国にも得意技の怪我アピールTO出してみろw
(Hayata should try her signature injury appeal TO against China at the last minute LOL)
10 concur, 0 ic, 12 hmm

pen********
23時間前
気になったのは

①長﨑をシンガポール戦あたりで出させても良かったかな
②インドの会場、暑過ぎるんじゃないか?
③早田が一人だけ上下ともタイトなユニフォームを着ているのが浮いてる

試合については、もはや中国が3人めに陳幸同ではなくクワイマンを出してくる時点で余裕たっぷりなので、順当のストレート負け。
(Things I'm wondering about:

① Would it have been better to bring in Nagasaki for the match against Singapore?
② Isn't the venue in India too hot?
③ Hayata is the only one wearing a tight-fitting uniform, which makes her stand out

As for the match itself, China was already comfortable enough to bring in KM instead of CXT as their 3rd player, so they deservedly lost in straight matches.)
113 concur, 14 ic, 38 hmm

lem********
14時間前
やはり平野選手、木原選手がいるだけでムードが良くなるし張本選手も元気になるような。
中澤さんが早田選手にアドバイスしている最中にも張本選手はソッポを向いてたし長崎選手の笑顔が少なかったなあ。
(Just having Hirano and Kihara there really lifted the mood and energized Harimoto.
Even while Nakazawa was giving advice to Hayata, Harimoto looked away, and Nagasaki didn't smile much.
)
42 concur, 3 ic, 4 hmm

ame********
21時間前
他のコメントにもあるけど、チームに一体感がなく盛り上がっていないように感じました。
やっぱりあのメディカルタイムアウトの件がスッキリ解消されていないんじゃないでしょうか…
(As other comments have mentioned, the team seemed to lack unity and enthusiasm.
Perhaps the medical timeout incident hasn't been resolved yet...
)
114 concur, 4 ic, 22 hmm

wcf*****
21時間前
前回はたしか平野が一勝
張本が二勝だったんだよね

何気に平野の存在は、特に団体戦では大きいんだよね
(I think Hirano won one match last time
and Harimoto won two

Hirano's presence is especially significant in team matches
)
89 concur, 7 ic, 23 hmm

bvl********
22時間前
さすがに卓球王国の中国やな。強い!日本もいいメンバーいるんだけど金メダルが遠い…
(There you have it, China the table tennis empire! So strong! Japan has some great players, but the gold medal is still a long way off...)
50 concur, 1 ic, 0 hmm

gsz********
23時間前
やっぱり中国は強かった!まだまだ差が有りますね、でも日本チームの方が若いのでピークが来れば勝てますね!頑張れ!
(China was strong, as expected! There's still a gap, but the Japanese team is younger, so once they reach their peak, they can win! Good luck!)
15 concur, 1 ic, 72 hmm

164556258
21時間前
早田ひなって可愛い言われてるけど、石川佳純の方が可愛いと思うんだ。
(People say Hayata Hina is cute, but I think Ishikawa Kasumi is cuter.)
81 concur, 0 ic, 28 hmm

ynp********
23時間前
まずはチームとして団結してない。
チームをまとめ引っ張るメンバーがいない。
原因は間違いなく早田でしょう。
そこからしてダメですね。
(First of all, they're not a cohesive team.
There's no one to lead the team.
The cause is undoubtedly Hayata.
That's where it's bad.
)
155 concur, 4 ic, 73 hmm

vmq********
20時間前
横浜の件以来日本女子はボロボロ。協会はきちんとけじめをつけてほしい。
(The Japanese WT has been in a terrible state since the Yokohama incident. I hope the association will draw a clear line under this.)
73 concur, 2 ic, 17 hmm

feels
22時間前
やはりフルメンバーで怪我もしていない中国には手も足も出なかったな
(As expected, [they] were powerless against a full team of China with no injuries)
74 concur, 4 ic, 10 hmm

hhb********
14時間前
伊藤美誠をベンチに入れたくなるよなぁ…
チームの雰囲気や団結力が足りない。
(I feel like I want Ito Mima at the bench...
The team lacks atmosphere and unity.)
26 concur, 2 ic, 15 hmm

n_d********
15時間前
第三試合で大藤選手が出場させられなかったのは大失敗のではと思われている。
(Not allowing Odo to play in the 3rd match is considered a major blunder.)
14 concur, 0 ic, 28 hmm

ndr********
21時間前
なんか、他国の人達が頑張って早田さん非難してるんですが、騙されてる人いる??
日本語のコメントだからって、信じちゃいけないよ??移民増えてきてんじゃね?
(People from other countries are really trying to criticize Hayata, but is anyone being fooled??
Just because the comments are in Japanese doesn't mean you should believe them, right?? Isn't the number of immigrants increasing?)
24 concur, 3 ic, 72 hmm

zcc********
23時間前
日本負けて当たり前やん
まさかホンマに中国を勝てると思ってんの?
中国はこの地球におる限りに日本1000回の中に1回勝てたら中国に感謝したまえ。
なぜなら、日本可哀想やから八百長をしてやるわっと中国が思ったから
(It's only natural that Japan lost
Do you really think they can beat China?
As long as China is on this planet, if Japan can beat China once in a thousand matches, they should be grateful.
Because China felt sorry for Japan and thought they'd fix the match)
22 concur, 2 ic, 71 hmm
 
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CNT and KNT are laughing to the bank if the infighting within JNT continues until LA28.

【卓球】日本は銀メダル 中国に0―3で敗戦  王国からは歓喜の声「完璧な対応だった」
https://www.tokyo-sports.co.jp/articles/-/363321
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/85e62db633d8f5905d769b3b2ff750ff1ce793db/comments
****H SK s*****s**
13時間前
シングルスの対戦成績からみて、まずハードルが高いのは事実とすれば、今回は早田選手ではなく大藤という手もあるのではなかったか?いずれにしてもランクの差はいなめないが、次への資料とするにもありかなと思った。たださすがに、中国も橋本というカットマン対策は熟成しつつあるのは事実なんでしょう。
(Considering the singles record, it's true that the hurdles are high, but wouldn't it have been better to go with Odo instead of Hayata this time? In any case, the difference in ranking is unavoidable, but I thought it might be worth using as reference for the next time. However, it's true that China is also developing strategies to deal with cutman like Hashimoto.)
35 concur, 2 ic, 16 hmm

yur*****
23時間前
みんなサーブミス目立ったけどなんで?
早田さんもレットはいつも多いけど滅多にサーブミスしないのにサーブミスしてたし
美和ちゃんも必殺技のバックストレートが全然出てこずクロスばかりに返球してたね
今回だけじゃないけど最近ラリーも続かなくなってすぐオーバーミスが目立つようになりました
テレビとか出なくていいんでしっかり練習しましょう
(Everyone's serve errors were noticeable. Why?
Hayata usually has a lot of lets, but she rarely misses her serve, but she missed one
Miwa's signature parallel BH wasn't coming out at all, and she was only returning diagonal shots
It's not just this time, but recently she hasn't been able to sustain rallies and her overhits have become more noticeable
You don't have to be on TV, so practice hard)
68 concur, 13 ic, 45 hmm

jos********
6時間前
インドのライブ配信を見たが
ベンチの雰囲気が最悪だった。
特に張本美和。
早田選手がコーチからアドバイスを受けている間
長崎と大藤は団扇で仰いでいたが
張本はソッポを向いて、ずっと大藤に笑いながら話しかけていた。
大藤は困った顔をし、長崎も凄く気まずそうだった。
色々思うことがあるとしても
団体戦で、しかも大事な中国相手の決勝。
自身が孫に惨敗した直後。
人としてあり得ないと思った。
こんなんで団体戦と言えるのか。
試合以前に負けていた。
(I watched the live broadcast from India
and the atmosphere on the bench was awful.
Especially Harimoto Miwa.
While Hayata was receiving advice from her coach
Nagasaki and Odo were fanning her with round fans
but Harimoto looked away and continued to talk to Odo while laughing.
Odo looked troubled, and Nagasaki also seemed very uncomfortable.
There were many things to think about
But it was a team competition, and an important one at that, the final against China.
Right after her own crushing defeat to Sun.
I thought it was unacceptable as a human being.
Can this even be called a team competition?
[She?] was already defeated before the match even began.
)
21 concur, 5 ic, 24 hmm

*****
12時間前
中国のTOP2が磐石すぎて勝負になっていない。メンバーの選定や順番を議論した所で、3番手の選手に1勝できるか、TOP2から1セット取れるかという感じで、試合結果は変わらないと思う。若い張本や大藤、長崎、木原辺りのレベルアップに期待したい所だが、最悪孫と王の世代交代待ちになりそう。
(China's top 2 are so solid that it's not even a competitive match. Even if we discuss the selection of players and the order of the players, I don't think the outcome will change; it's just a matter of whether they can win one match against the 3rd-ranked player or get one game from the top 2. I'd like to see young players like Harimoto, Odo, Nagasaki, and Kihara improve their skills, but at worst, we'll have to wait for a generational change with Sun and Wang.)
26 concur, 3 ic, 4 hmm

o_a********
11時間前
悪くは言いたくないですが、今回のチーム明らかにまとまりのない、最悪のチームでした。
今大会、全試合見ていましたが、張本さんは横浜の件を引きずっている印象ですね。自分も同様で当然だと思いますが、明らかにタイムアウト中やセット間の態度が特定選手の時に違い過ぎて驚きました。

協会は真剣に受け止め動かないと、こんな状態だと周りの選手も迷惑しするしいい結果なんて期待できませんね。
特に中国戦のあの態度は当事者ではない大藤さんにまで悪い印象が向けられてしまいます。
(I don't want to say anything bad, but this team was clearly disorganized and the worst.
I watched all the matches in this tournament, and I get the impression that Harimoto is still hung up on the Yokohama incident. I'm not surprised as it was the same for me, but I was surprised at how clearly certain players' attitudes were different during timeouts and between games.

If the association doesn't take this seriously and take action, this situation will only inconvenience the other players and we can't expect good results.
In particular, the attitude in the match against China has cast a bad impression even on Odo, who was not even involved in the match.
)
42 concur, 3 ic, 7 hmm

awful
15時間前
団体戦で致命的な手首手負いの選手が出たら本気の中国選手に勝てるわけない。決勝戦でその選手に頼らなければならない日本女子選手の層の薄さでは0-3で敗退するのが当たり前だ。若手を積極的に選出して次のオリンピックに備えなければ女子選手団の成長はない。
(If a player suffers a fatal wrist injury in the team competition, there's no way she can beat a serious Chinese player. With the thin depth of the Japanese women's team, they'll have to rely on that player in the final, so a 0-3 loss is only natural. Unless they actively select young players and prepare for the next Olympics, the women's team will not improve.)
54 concur, 0 ic, 25 hmm

oaz********
1日前
張本美和ちゃんは、素晴らしいです。本当に日本卓球女子が成長していけます。早田さん退任してください、お願いします。きっと素晴らしい日本卓球女子が出来るはずです。早田さんはスポーツ選手に相応しい人ではなくずるい人です。
(Miwa Harimoto is amazing. She will truly help Japanese women's table tennis grow. Please, Hayata, please step down. I'm sure we'll be able to produce great Japanese women's table tennis. Hayata is not a suitable athlete and is dishonest.)
aomi
9時間前
あなたはチャイナ!
日本人の早田の悪口を至る所で吹聴しまくり、日本をかき乱そうと扇動するのは止めなさい!
(You're China!
Stop spreading bad things everywhere about Hayata who is a Japanese and inciting unrest in Japan!)
7 concur, 2 ic, 14 hmm

giu********
17時間前
早田の起用ではなく大藤の方が負けても未来はあったと思う。
(I think Odo would have had a future even if she had lost instead of Hayata.)
42 concur, 1 ic, 35 hmm
 
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【卓球】日本女子は準優勝 橋本帆乃香、張本美和、早田ひなが中国に挑むも0―3で連覇ならず…アジア選手権団体戦
https://hochi.news/articles/20251015-OHT1T51239.html?page=1
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/4cdb1c2905042ea1384b0ba298b92148b54feffd/comments
mom********
1日前
負けている状況、監督が助言している横で、他のメンバーが笑ってふざけているように見えた。そういう姿勢からも中国に勝てる気がしない。
中国のトップ選手は、どの試合でも勝ち残るので体もキツイと思う。今回も本調子ではなかった選手もいたように思う。それでも結果を残す中国は本当に強いと思う。
(When they were losing, the other players seemed to be laughing and joking around while the coach was giving advice. That kind of attitude makes me feel like they can't beat China.
China's top players must be physically exhausted from winning every match. I think some of them weren't in top form this time either. Still, China is a strong team, producing results.)
195 concur, 5 ic, 34 hmm
watashi-voice
11時間前
私は早田選手は年齢的にもキャプテンの立場なんだから、いつまでもギクシャクしているのは早田選手の責任だと思ってぃます。これまでの女子団体ではキャプテンがいつも他の選手を気遣っていました。早田選手は故障してから(昔からかな、絶対みまみうより上に立つと頑張ってきたと公言していましたから)自分が強くありたいだけの人になった気がしています。
(I think Hayata is at an age where she's in the captain's position, so it's her responsibility that things are still so awkward. In previous women's teams, the captain was always concerned about the other players. Since Hayata's injury (maybe even before, because she's always said she was determined to be better than MimaMiu), I feel like she's become someone who only wants to be strong.)
26 concur, 1 ic, 12 hmm
iccoca
1日前
早田選手と張本選手の関係性が現れてましたよね。
(The relationship between Hayata and Harimoto was evident.)
71 concur, 12 ic, 11 hmm
nan********
23時間前
張本選手の態度が悪かったですね
(Harimoto's attitude was bad)
76 concur, 8 ic, 67 hmm

ロートル
13時間前
団体戦としてはチームの雰囲気最低に見えた。一体感まるでなし監督が熱弁振るっているだけ。選手個々の力を100%以上引き出すのは気持ちとかアドレナリンが出る様な雰囲気が重要なのに、うちわで扇いでいるが義務的。
技術も大事だが団体戦は先ず雰囲気づくりからと思えた。
(For a team match, the team atmosphere seemed awful. There was no sense of unity at all; the coach was just giving passionate speeches. To bring out 100% of each player's potential, it's important to create an atmosphere that gets the players going and gets their adrenaline pumping, but the fans were just a matter of obligation.
While technique is important, it seems like creating the right atmosphere is the first priority in a team match.
)
48 concur, 5 ic, 1 hmm

bru********
23時間前
相手の中国はランキング1〜5位を独占しているので、結果としては仕方ないが、自分の卓球が出来ているかが気になる。一番良かったのは早田さんかなと思います。蒯曼とのラリーでも負けていなかったので、2セット目のリードで無理なチキータが無ければと思ってしまう。橋本さんは、攻撃的なカットマンと言われていますが、本来は全力で拾いまくるタイプだと思いますので、原点に戻って欲しいと思います。ちょっとフォア攻撃ミスが目立ちました。
張本さんは、予想通り、手も足も出ない状況で張本らしい卓球は殆どありませんでした。表情やベンチに戻る姿も仕事に疲れたサラリーマンのようです。
(Since their Chinese opponents dominate the top 5 rankings, the result is understandable, but I'm curious to see if they were playing their own table tennis. I think Hayata played the best. She wasn't losing any rallies with KM, so I wish she didn't make any risky chiquitas while leading in the 2nd game. Hashimoto is said to be an aggressive cut player, but I think she's actually the type who goes all out to pick up the ball, so I hope she gets back to her roots. Her forehand attacking mistakes were noticeable.
As expected, Harimoto was completely overwhelmed and didn't play her typical table tennis. Her facial expression and the way she returned to the bench reminded me of a tired office worker.)
71 concur, 14 ic, 149 hmm

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1日前
また距離が離れてしまったな
橋本があっという間に攻略された
(The gap has widened again
Hashimoto was conquered in an instant)
146 concur, 5 ic, 7 hmm

yuu********
1日前
ただただ強い。中国女子は強過ぎます。
差がまだまだ縮まらない。
(They're simply strong. The Chinese women are just too strong.
The gap is still not closing.
)
109 concur, 2 ic, 3 hmm

shi********
23時間前
早田選手に対するコーチのアドバイスのときの張本選手の振る舞いは、感心できない態度に見えました。
(Harimoto's behavior towards Hayata during the coach's advice seemed unacceptable.)
122 concur, 6 ic, 72 hmm
akk********
1日前
わだかまりってそう簡単に消えやしないよ。
ましてや同じチームにいるんだもの… あの時もう少し早田が大人の対応すれば違ったかもしれないけど、自分は悪くないって態度だったからね。
(Resentment doesn't go away that easily.
Especially since they're on the same team... Things might have been different if Hayata had handled things more maturely at the time, but she maintained that she wasn't at fault.
)
126 concur, 4 ic, 54 hmm

y********
1日前
早田と大藤なら、大藤を使った方がよかったんじゃ。どちらにせよ、橋本と張本が対中国ならツートップという感じなんだな。
色々バカが言ってるけど、前回優勝できたのは張本のおかげだし、今回ストレート負けだからといって、張本の成長が止まったというのはおかしい。
(If it were between Hayata and Odo, Odo would have been better. Either way, Hashimoto and Harimoto are the two best players against China.
There are a lot of idiots saying this, but it was thanks to Harimoto that they were able to win last time, so it's wrong to say that Harimoto's growth has stopped just because she lost in straight games this time.
)
141 concur, 0 ic, 83 hmm
 
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【卓球】アジア選手権(団体戦)で日本女子は中国に挑戦するもストレートで跳ね返され、悔しい準優勝
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/cc76ea994d43452dd50e25cc25bacd85368fa52f/comments
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1日前
昨年2月の世界選手権、10月のアジア選手権では大一番での爆発力が強くて、通の間では『最強の3番』と呼ばれている選手がいたから中国と勝負になりました
復活を期待してます
(At the World Championships in February last year and the Asian Championships in October, one player showed explosive power in the big matches, and known among experts as the "strongest 3rd singles," which led to a death match versus China.
I'm looking forward to her comeback.
)
12 concur, 1 ic, 10 hmm

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1日前
しかし、早田はダメだな、中国の4番手に完敗するんだから。クワイマンはこの間のチャイナスマッシュで、ランキング30位台の韓国選手にアッサリ負けてるくらい中国トップ2に比べたら3枚くらい落ちる選手です。仮に日本が3番手大藤なら1勝は出来ました。
(But Hayata's no good, as she was completely defeated by China's No. 4 player. KM was easily defeated by a Korean player ranked in the 30s in the recent China Smash, making her about 3 levels below China's top 2 players. If Japan had played No. 3 player Odo, they could have won a match.)
81, 8 ic, 111 hmm
 
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Sinicization of Hirano...

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Harimoto on ATTTC 2025, how he is 50-50 against LJK now and can beat anyone with confidence other than WCQ.

He also touched on Matsushima's performance, how being an All-Japan champion is only a starting point such as Togami, Uda and Oikawa, that Matsushima might have taken a little time along the way, but looked forward to Matsushima and Togami making the top 10 in WR next year.

張本智和、強行出場のエースがもたらした逆転勝利「Tリーグまでアジア選手権の気持ち」 シングルス7連勝で岡山を牽引
https://spread-sports.jp/archives/362718

卓球男子の銅メダル獲得で張本智和が掴んだ自信 中国トップ3を撃破した2025年の手応え「胸を張って今後は戦える」
https://spread-sports.jp/archives/362721
張本智は「僕たちが中国に勝てていたら、決勝は香港にストレートで難なく勝てたと思うので、そんなに肩を落とすことはない」と、日本男子の戦いに自信を見せた。それでも「最低限、銅メダルは持って帰らないといけない。協会の支援でアジア選手権に行っているので、最低限の報告はメダルでしか表せない」と、メダルの価値を強調した。

今回、梁靖崑に勝利した張本智は、準決勝に出場した中国メンバー(王楚欽、林詩棟、梁靖崑)に対して2025年にいずれも勝利。現中国のトップ3を相手に、エースと呼ぶにふさわしい奮闘を見せている。

張本智は世界7位撃破について、「今回の梁靖崑選手は、去年の福岡(WTTファイナルズ)で勝って、今年のアジアカップでは負けて、今回のアジア選手権で勝った。『勝った・負けた』という戦いを繰り返す中で、五分には乗ったかなと思います」とコメント。さらに「王楚欽選手以外に対しては、胸を張って勝てると思いながら、今後のWTTでは戦っていけると思えたのが、今回の収穫です」と、今後への自信も語った。

張本智和が認めた“世界王者撃破”の18歳・松島輝空の進化 全日本王者は「ポテンシャルの証明」トップ10浮上にも期待
https://spread-sports.jp/archives/363157
国際大会でダブルスを組むこともある張本智は、18歳の成長をそばで見届けてきた一人。「松島選手はすごくよかった」とインドでの戦いを称賛しつつ、「彼は(2024年に行われた)釜山の世界卓球でデビューして、予選の台湾戦でもいい活躍をしていた。今回も初めての2点起用で韓国戦を乗り切り、中国戦では王楚欽に勝った。松島選手の最近の伸びは、WTTを含めてすごいと思う」と後輩の成長を認めた。

松島は、今年1月に行われた全日本選手権で張本智、篠塚大登というパリ五輪代表を連破して初優勝。世界ランキングを日本男子2番手の16位に上げるなど、次世代を担う存在から、新たな主軸の一人へと変貌を遂げている。

14歳208日での最年少優勝記録を持つ張本智は、「全日本のチャンピオンは全員にとってのスタートで、そのスタートに立てるのは全日本チャンピオンしかいない。過去には戸上(隼輔)選手、宇田(幸矢)選手、及川(瑞基)選手がいた。そのタイトルを高校生で獲ったのは、それだけのポテンシャルがある証明です」と、その才能に太鼓判を押した。

今後の日本男子の勢力図について、松島、戸上隼輔の名前を挙げながら、「松島選手も途中には少し時間がかかったかもしれないですけど、今年の全日本から一気に来たなと思います。いまや世界ランクも10位台中盤。彼と戸上選手は、来年にはトップ10も見えてくるのかなと思います」と、期待を込めながら語った。
 
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Harimoto fans and Hayata fans are fighting again at 5ch...

スレ立てるほどでもない大会・海外卓球 女子289
https://itest.5ch.net/mao/test/read.cgi/pingpong/1760612716/l-
0003 名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!! 2025/10/16(木) 20:48:22.32
このチャンピオン2大会で来年のアジア大会のシングルス代表が決まりそうだね
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(These 2 championships will likely determine the singles representative for next year's Asian Games)

0007 名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!! 2025/10/16(木) 21:32:56.55
伊藤がシングルス落選した時に前回のように団体辞退するのか興味深い
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(It will be interesting to see if Ito withdraws from the team like she did last time if she is not selected for the singles)

0008 名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!! 2025/10/16(木) 21:33:48.78
前スレ、早田推しが美和をこれでもかと叩いていたのはどうかと思う
不仲不仲と囃し立てて、外部から日本チームを瓦解させようとする意図すら感じた
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(I think it's strange that Hayata fans were bashing Miwa so much in the previous thread. They were blaming her for their rift and even seemed to be trying to tear down the Japanese team from the outside)

0009 名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!! 2025/10/16(木) 21:34:49.97
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同意です!!!
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(I agree!!!)

0010 名無しQ(・∀・)ノ゜サァン!! 2025/10/16(木) 21:36:56.18
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団体に選ばれるとダブルスに出るチャンスがあるんだよ
早田も選ばれるならみまひなで出たいと思うかもよ
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(If she's selected for the team, she has a chance to play doubles. If Hayata is selected, she might want to play with MimaHina)
 
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In an interview after the T.League match on 11/19, Harimoto admitted that she is "in a state of stagnation".

17歳・張本美和が打ち明けた現状への“迷い”「卓球はメンタルのゲーム」 世界トップ選手へ進化する中で得た気づき
https://spread-sports.jp/archives/363164
■停滞と向き合うエースの胸中

張本美はアジア選手権で北朝鮮戦、シンガポール戦、中国戦すべてに出場し、銀メダルに貢献。KA神奈川でもこの日、赤江夏星に勝利してTリーグでの成績を4戦全勝とし、国内外でトップ選手としての地位を確立しつつある。

それでも、日本のエース格へと成長した張本美が語ったのは、現状に対する停滞感だった。この日苦戦を強いられた赤江との試合を振り返り、「前回の対戦で勝っていた相手とやると、自分の中では難しさがある。気持ち的には普通に入っているつもりでも、やっぱりどこか受け身になってしまう」と、“慣れられた相手”に対する難しさを明かした。

さらに、現状の課題については「もちろん技術面ではフォアハンドの強化をもっとしていかないといけない。最近は試合中に自信が持てなかったり、自分の技術に不安があったりして、自信を持ってプレーできていない。前の負け方より悔いが残っている」と分析しつつ、「『卓球はメンタルのゲーム』で、一番大事だと前から思っていたんですけど、最近はそれをより強く課題として感じている」と、ハイレベルな舞台で芽生えた気づきを語った。

世界ランキングでは日本勢トップの7位をキープ。15歳で注目を集め、16歳でパリ五輪に出場するなど飛躍を遂げてきたが、17歳の今、感じる“難しさ”があるという。

「17歳になってからも優勝はしているけど、『今あるもので優勝できた』という感じがあって。15歳や16歳のときはもっと“試合で成長できた”という感覚があった。今は試合をすればするほど、自分が持っている技術に自信をなくしていって、本当はできるはずのものも、自信を持って使えなくなっている」と、孫穎莎や王曼昱といった中国トップ選手との戦いを振り返りながら、現在の迷いや葛藤を素直に明かした。

アジア選手権から帰国して間もない中、Tリーグの連戦を戦い抜いた張本美は、次に「WTTスターコンテンダー・ロンドン」出場のため、再び海外へ向かう。トップ選手へと成長したからこそ抱える悩みを明かしながらも、最後は笑顔を見せた17歳。さらなるステージを目指し、今の自分と向き合い続ける。
■ The Mindset of an Ace Facing Stagnation

Harimoto Mi[wa] played in all matches against North Korea, Singapore, and China at the Asian Championships, contributing to the team's silver medal win. With a victory over Akae Kaho on this day, KA Kanagawa brought her T League record to four wins, firmly establishing herself as a top player both domestically and internationally.

Even so, despite her rise to become one of Japan's top players, Harimoto Miho spoke of her current state of stagnation. Reflecting on her difficult match against Akae, she revealed the difficulty of playing against a "familiar opponent," saying, "When I play against an opponent I beat in the previous match, it's difficult for me. Even when I think I'm playing normally, I still end up being somewhat passive."

Furthermore, when asked about her current challenges, she analyzed, "Of course, in terms of technique, I need to work on my forehand more. Recently, I've been lacking confidence during matches, and I've been unsure of my technique, so I haven't been able to play with confidence. I feel more regret than in my previous losses." She also spoke of an awareness she has had playing on a high-level stage, saying, "I've always thought that 'table tennis is a mental game' and that this is the most important thing, but recently I've felt that this is even more of an issue."

She remains at 7th place in the world rankings, the highest among Japanese players. She attracted attention at the age of 15, and has made great strides, competing in the Paris Olympics at 16, but now at 17, she feels that there are some "difficulties" she faces.

"Even after turning 17 and I've won titles, but I feel like "I won the title with what I had at the moment". When I was 15 or 16, I felt like I was able to grow more through matches. Now, the more I play, the more I lose confidence in my skills, and I can't confidently use the things I should be able to do," she said, candidly revealing her current doubts and struggles as she reflected on her battles with top Chinese players like Sun Yingsha and Wang Manyu.

Having just returned from the Asian Championships, Harimoto Mi[wa], who has now battled through a series of T.League matches, is heading overseas again to compete in the WTT Star Contender London. The 17-year-old revealed the worries she faces as she has grown into a top player, but ultimately smiled. Aiming for even greater heights, she continues to confront herself.
 
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TV Tokyo airport interviews after ATTTC 2025.

No doubt the most divided WT. The MT talked about チーム力/teamwork just 2 minutes in. No wonder the late 李敖/Li Ao once said that women don't make good political judgment because they let emotions get the better of them.

The entire WT touched on the match against PRK and how the athletics stadium, the table and ball, and the stray breeze affected them whereas CNT players still played without misses...

【インタビュー】中国と大激闘を繰り広げた男子代表 「たった1年間でここまで成長できた」|アジア卓球選手権大会2025
]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6uvSt26SCY

【インタビュー】連覇を狙った女子代表 「空調の影響もある中、中国はミスが少なかった」|アジア卓球選手権大会2025
]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-KbMVPMGKo
 
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Even Hirano is considering about trying out pickleball...

【卓球】平野美宇「もっと自分の心に質問を」世界選手権2回戦敗退後の気づき/一問一答<上>
https://www.nikkansports.com/sports/news/202505270000267.html
【卓球】平野美宇の本音「みんな思っていたより優しい」世界選手権後の気づき/一問一答<下>
https://www.nikkansports.com/sports/news/202505270000281.html
 
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Harimoto on pairing up with Hashimoto for WD at WTT SCT London 2025 on Nakazawa's suggestion.

張本美和が語った橋本帆乃香との“異色ペア”結成の舞台裏 ロス五輪へ求められる強化 カットマンとのダブルスに「イメージはある」
https://spread-sports.jp/archives/363609
今回、大藤が不在という中で、中澤鋭監督から「橋本選手と組んでみないか?」と提案され、ペア結成が実現したという。

カットマンとのペアについて張本美は、赤川瑞姫(現・日本大)と組んで全日本選手権カデットの部(中学2年生以下)で優勝した経験に触れながら、「迷惑をかけないか不安はあるけれど、『こうしたらいい』というイメージはある。結果にこだわらず、楽しくやれたらいい」と前向きな気持ちを語った。

2028年のロサンゼルス五輪では、男女のダブルスが04年アテネ大会以来の復活を果たすことが決まっており、ダブルス強化は日本卓球界の重要課題となっている。そうした中で生まれた、張本美と橋本によるコンビ。2人がどのような化学反応を起こすのか、その戦いぶりに注目が集まる。

【卓球】張本美和、カットマンの橋本帆乃香との珍しいペアで女子ダブルス出場へ「とにかくブロック」…WTTスターコンテンダー・ロンドン
https://hochi.news/articles/20251022-OHT1T51141.html?page=1
 ダブルス種目が復活する28年ロサンゼルス五輪を見据え、さまざまなペアリングを試している中で、5月の世界卓球個人戦後から組んできた大藤沙月(ミキハウス)が出場しないこともあり、中沢鋭監督から「組んでみないか?」と提案があった。「橋本選手も『いいよ』と言って下さったので、じゃあお試しで組んでみようと。結果にこだわり過ぎず、楽しくやれたらいい」と前向きに話した。

 5月の世界卓球個人戦では木原美悠と組んで銅メダルを獲得し、大藤とも世界ツアーで4連勝と女子ダブルスの実績を重ねてきた張本。現代のトップ選手に多い右シェーク攻撃型で、守備型のカット主戦型とのペアでは、カットマンの返球を強打してきた球に対応する高い技術が求められ、難しいとされる。「迷惑をかけないか不安はある」。ただ、小学4年時に全日本選手権カデットの部でカット主戦型の赤川瑞姫と組んで優勝した経験から「(当時は)とにかくブロックしていた。カットマンの選手と組むのは久しぶりだけど、頭の中でイメージはある」と苦手意識はなさそうだ。
 
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In an interview after the T.League match on 11/19, Harimoto admitted that she is "in a state of stagnation".

17歳・張本美和が打ち明けた現状への“迷い”「卓球はメンタルのゲーム」 世界トップ選手へ進化する中で得た気づき
https://spread-sports.jp/archives/363164

■ The Mindset of an Ace Facing Stagnation

Harimoto Mi[wa] played in all matches against North Korea, Singapore, and China at the Asian Championships, contributing to the team's silver medal win. With a victory over Akae Kaho on this day, KA Kanagawa brought her T League record to four wins, firmly establishing herself as a top player both domestically and internationally.

Even so, despite her rise to become one of Japan's top players, Harimoto Miho spoke of her current state of stagnation. Reflecting on her difficult match against Akae, she revealed the difficulty of playing against a "familiar opponent," saying, "When I play against an opponent I beat in the previous match, it's difficult for me. Even when I think I'm playing normally, I still end up being somewhat passive."

Furthermore, when asked about her current challenges, she analyzed, "Of course, in terms of technique, I need to work on my forehand more. Recently, I've been lacking confidence during matches, and I've been unsure of my technique, so I haven't been able to play with confidence. I feel more regret than in my previous losses." She also spoke of an awareness she has had playing on a high-level stage, saying, "I've always thought that 'table tennis is a mental game' and that this is the most important thing, but recently I've felt that this is even more of an issue."

She remains at 7th place in the world rankings, the highest among Japanese players. She attracted attention at the age of 15, and has made great strides, competing in the Paris Olympics at 16, but now at 17, she feels that there are some "difficulties" she faces.

"Even after turning 17 and I've won titles, but I feel like "I won the title with what I had at the moment". When I was 15 or 16, I felt like I was able to grow more through matches. Now, the more I play, the more I lose confidence in my skills, and I can't confidently use the things I should be able to do," she said, candidly revealing her current doubts and struggles as she reflected on her battles with top Chinese players like Sun Yingsha and Wang Manyu.

Having just returned from the Asian Championships, Harimoto Mi[wa], who has now battled through a series of T.League matches, is heading overseas again to compete in the WTT Star Contender London. The 17-year-old revealed the worries she faces as she has grown into a top player, but ultimately smiled. Aiming for even greater heights, she continues to confront herself.
Yep, She's looked toothless against SYS & WMY recently, and frankly a bit exhausted even if she denies it.
 
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seems like they are still selecting singles players first before deciding on the doubles pairings from among the selected players. So Sato/Hashimoto is almost certainly out. Ito/Hayata may be out too if the latter can't keep her ranking.
Yup, they will choose the doubles pairs from the 5 selected members, so if Sato and Hayata don't make it...

It should be obvious now why Hayata has been so desperate, pairing up with Ito again. Ito has also learned from her mistake of ditching doubles in the last Olympic cycle.
 
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Hayata is no doubt a ticking bomb now.

「かけていないような、このなじみ感が好き」
https://www.zoff.com/zoff-focus/20251023-bunshun
https://bunshun.jp/articles/-/82393
早田さんはいまも挑戦の途上にいる。
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「パリの大会で腕を痛めてしまったので、このケガと向き合いながら、全力を尽くしてできる限りのことをやっていこうと。3年後にロサンゼルスでの大会がありますけど、その目標が実現しなくても仕方ないという感じで、もうほんとうに目先のことだけ見つめて。ケガの分だけ普通の選手より苦労はすると思いますけど、自分の卓球人生としてほんとうに楽しくできているかということを基準にして、いまは頑張ってるという感じです」

去年より、昨日より、進化していく自分を目指して。

 そのためのこれからの課題をどう捉えていますか。

「やっぱり身体をもっと強くしていきたい。もともと体質的に細い方ですし、動きの量が普通より2倍も3倍も多いタイプなので身体への負担が大きくて、その問題をどうやって打開していくか。相手の癖の研究とかはもちろんですし、体調の管理もすごく考えています。それと技術や戦術、駆け引きもますます重要になってくるので、その辺りを去年から意識しています。大事なのは常に自分が進化していくっていうこと。去年の自分、昨日の自分と比べて、ここが良くなったとか。ケガで練習量が少なくなって、他の選手はその時間も練習して強くなっている。そこを比べてしまうと、好きなはずの卓球が苦しくなって嫌いになってしまうことも起こり得ます。だから視点を変えて、とにかく自分に集中して自分を進化させることに集中して頑張っているという感じですね」
 
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Yup, they will choose the doubles pairs from the 5 selected members, so if Sato and Hayata don't make it...

It should be obvious now why Hayata has been so desperate, pairing up with Ito again. Ito has also learned from her mistake of ditching doubles in the last Olympic cycle.
Ito/Hashimoto doubles would be interesting. Ito has built her entire game around pushing and sideswiping blocks against topspin which I think would
complement Hashimoto's game well. Not sure if either of them nor the Japanese coaches are interested though.
 
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【卓球】女子ダブルス初戦から“日本人対決”伊藤美誠・早田ひなペアVS張本美和・橋本帆乃香ペア WTTスターコンテンダーロンドン2025
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/bc79daa3463bc2e46202e80cef027e7bed45eaae/comments
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実績十分の優勝候補筆頭のペアが予選からスタートして、即席ペアが第1シードで奇妙だが、いきなり同士討ちというのは嫌な感じだね。
協会とすれば張本・橋本組を試したかったんだろうけど、伊藤・早田組が邪魔する形となった印象がある。
もちろん仕方がないことだが、最近は日本女子チームのイメージが悪くなっている。
それをアジア選手権で感じた。
改善してほしいところ。
(It's strange that a pair with a proven track record and a top contender for the title starts in the prelim, while an impromptu pair is seeded first, but it's unpleasant to see them suddenly pitted against each other.
The association probably wanted to test out Harimoto/Hashimoto, but I get the impression that Ito/Hayata got in the way.
Of course, it's understandable, but the image of the Japanese women's team has been tarnished recently.
I felt that at the Asian Championships.

I hope they improve.
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50 conur, 5 ic, 16 hmm

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張本橋本のダブルスを試しておきたいということですね。
協会としては、張本の五輪代表は揺るがないものと考え、大藤と橋本のどちらかがもう一枠を獲得するか、しなかったとして張本のダブルスパートナーとして誰を選出するかというところを探っているようですね。
これは、伊藤や早田が張本のダブルスパートナーとなることはないだろうということでもある。まぁ、早田に関しては左利きですがそりゃそうですよね。
(So they want to try out the Harimoto-Hashimoto doubles pairing.
The association seems to believe that Harimoto's Olympic berth is secure, and is exploring whether either Odo or Hashimoto will secure another spot, or if not, who to select as Harimoto's doubles partner.
This also means that Ito or Hayata are unlikely to be Harimoto's doubles partners.
Well, Hayata is left-handed, so that makes sense.)
23 concur, 5 ic, 22 hmm
 
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Even Tieba users could see the obvious.

美和桥本vs神风伊藤
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/10151617392
明月清风1236 下次桥本多加一点进攻吧,不然对面真的往死里打美和,这不是双削美合是攻的
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(Next time, Hashimoto should add a little more offense, otherwise the other side will really beat Miwa to death. This isn't double-chopper, Miwa is an attacker)
zhan号注销中: 我觉得从头到尾桥本都是这个组合的主导,如果他的削球能让对面进入他的节奏,那这个组合就不停的得分,如果他会被对面的伊藤所压制,这个组合间接或直接的丢分也是成串的,成也桥本,败也桥本
2025-10-24 01:45回复
(I think Hashimoto was the dominant role in this combination from start to finish. If her chops can get the opponent into her rhythm, this combination will score continuously. If she is suppressed by Ito, this combination will lose points directly or indirectly. Hashimoto is both the reason for their success and their failure)
明月清风1236: 回复 zhan号注销中 :看看这个组合打其他人吧,伊藤真的太会打削球了,神风又打得太抽象了
2025-10-24 01:48回复
(Let's see how this combination plays against others. Ito is really good at playing choppers, and Kamikaze played too abstract)
zhan号注销中: 回复 明月清风1236 :后面两局其实无关胜负了,双方逐渐找回感觉之后,有非常多精彩的多拍对决,没想到看似闹着玩的双摩托组合也找到了自己的配合方式,打的相当流畅
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(The last two games weren't really about winning or losing. As both pairs gradually found their feeling, there were many exciting multi-shot duels. Unexpectedly, the seemingly just-for-fun Double-Moto combination also found their own coordination and played quite smoothly)
 
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