New bat with to muck around ;)

[Der_Echte]

With everyone talking about this OFF to OFF wooden bat and all the new talk about H3 (my old sheet is ancient (3 yrs old) on a backup bat)... I got me a hankering to do something about it.

Well I decided to buy and assemble my own OFF class wooden bat Clipper wannabe with H3. (and Inspirit Quattro 42)

www.colestt.com shipped me the stuff ( I ordered 36 three star celluloid balls for the rec center crowd and Cole also tossed in a rubber for me. His way of hooking up a service member which I will build another bat for a rec center military dude as I get a rubber freed up)

I step by step did my thing and took pics along the way.

I expect this thing to be low spectrum of OFF class with a different feel than my favored composite bats. Expect decent spin and control as well, but won't get a chance to do anything about it until Monday.

What was notable to me is the weight of the uncut rubbers...

H3 coming in at a relatively ultra light weight of 54.5 grams and a cut weight of 40 grams (glue added .5 - 1 gram)

Inspirit Quattro 42 ringing the scales at a heavyweight 71.7 grams uncut and 60 grams cut minus the glue

Total weight of bat was 183 grams... but that is WAY too light for me, so I added some weight.

Edge tape accounted for 1.5 grams and the grip taped added another 5 grams.

Bat now just under 191 grams... MUCH BETTER.

Here is die Bilder...

 

[Dreamyee]

weight is always first priority as my blade is very heay

 

[Der_Echte]

There were so MANY threads with H3 or some all-wood blade I just had to make one.

 

[KM1976]

Hi, please share your playing experiences with the new setup. I am seriously thinking of trying chinese rubbers with boosters. The only concern is that I have never used tacky chinese rubbers in the past and I am not sure how will the results be.

 

[Mahmed]

lovely work@der echte.i wish i was in your club,then i could try out all your experiments!

 

[Der_Echte]

Mahmed, gunna let you in on another secret...

I don't have a club here. There is an Army camp rec center and that is it. Sometimes, I can drive 6 hours to Boston to visit my daughter and play in Boston TTC very infrequently.

I expect to use this thing Monday in the rec center vs a few City Div 5 level players. That is about the third lowest level you can play in Korean standard. That would be around 1300 USATT, still good enough to strongly attack easy chances.

What I expect is decent pace from Dawei Inspiirit Quattro (Cole knows I like this rubber with HARD sponge) and I expect decent control and good spin from H3. I am not a fan of super tacky rubbers. I deliberately negate much of the tack the first week I use H3 to make it only mildly tacky. I can brush loop a ball without my topsheet being super tacky and I can make a fast look without using tacky topsheet. I believe that a broken in sheet of H3 without some of its tack is a decent performing rubber on par with a few Euro and Japanese looping rubbers and it costs 1/2 the price. I can do every stroke on BH wing with just about any inverted rubber except anti, I only desire it in max sponge and mot super mushy soft. Other that that, I can slap just about anything on BH wing and make it work.

 

[Der_Echte]

I have been too lazy to change my country location flag back to USA in hopes I make my way back to Korea soon to live there again.

 

[Der_Echte]

This H3 has #19 sponge and the Dawei Inspirt has 42 degree sponge. The blade looks like a somewhat thinner version of the Clipper and since many are always talking about that blade, I thought I would hit with one like it on the cheep for fun.

 

[cheungo]

Sounds a cool little project! im half tempted to go back to hurricane rubbers myself!! think i'll try out the new hurricane 8 when it arrives! apparently theyve re-deveoped the hurricane 3 a little bit too for the new balls?!

 

[Der_Echte]

The H3 was so slow I think I am assigning a NEGATIVE value to it. My normal serve took two bounces to make it to the net.

Maybe I need to take it off and glue it back on, had that happen to me once with Sigma Euro and I know that rubber is not a dead rubber, reglue job fixed that one back then.

Gunna hafta try it again after regluing.

 

[elrigo99]

Same thing happened to me, I took it away to return to the JP 01 but eventually returned to H3 (talking about Neo). Speed was as usual not there, average spin and personally I had more control with M2/JP.

 

[Der_Echte]

Re-glued the H3 back on the blade and it now feels only SLOW.

Overall, this OFF setup feels and loops like a DEF+ to ALL- setup on the H3 side. Not bad if you are parked at the table and counter hit everything, this setup would excel at that kind of style. It also excels for a continuous looping style, control on this setup is top rate, it simply lacks raw power finishing speed.

 

[Der_Echte]

I am beginning to think that Rasant would be an outstanding choice for this blade...

 

[Der_Echte]

Hi, please share your playing experiences with the new setup. I am seriously thinking of trying chinese rubbers with boosters. The only concern is that I have never used tacky chinese rubbers in the past and I am not sure how will the results be.

This #19 sponge for the H3 is designed to be used with a tuner, without tuning, this sponge is nothing special. I also need to hit with it for another 10 hours at the table to break in the sponge better and get rid of half the tack. Right now, I can pick up a ball and that is too much tack for me.

I would say that if done with control, a tuner would really spruce up the performance of this rubber to make it suitable even for FH. Right now, it is too slow a rubber for me to consider using on FH. Even after regluing it back on, the speed went from negative something to smack middle of slow. That isn't bad for me on BH wing as I can really make bat speed. This rubber without tuning is perfectly controllable and is ideal for what I need on BH wing: a control rubber.

H3 NEO after breaking it in a few weeks would be an option (especially for humid venues) for some players' FH wing, without tuning, in my crappy opinion.

I would say if you do not like tacky rubbers, but have one on hand to tryout, tune it up and slap it on whatever blade you have and go at it. Wipe it on your sweaty shirt as often as you can and rub it down with your hand every point. After a week or two of daily play for a few hours, a chunk of the tack will disappear and it will play a lot closer to what you like, if your preferences are similar to mine. When done playing, wipe it on your shirt, wave it dry, and toss it in Ur case. A few weeks of that will get the rubber close to what you like.

 

[Bishop Rasta 27]

This H3 has #19 sponge and the Dawei Inspirt has 42 degree sponge. The blade looks like a somewhat thinner version of the Clipper and since many are always talking about that blade, I thought I would hit with one like it on the cheep for fun.

so you can use H3 on the BH wing, gonna try that sometime...i have H3 (not the neo), an old version,slapped on my old friendship/729 blade with still workable 729 super fx on the other side. the bat becomes heavy with 120+ grams but it doesn't matter because i was used to it.

i used H3 on the FH and it works great, still tacky though, i had never tried using it on BH because i was afraid i couldn't control it...still waiting for a few more games to wear out the old super fx so i could replace it...i have palio cj8000 that was detached from its sponge, couldn't use the sponge anymore coz it shrunk already, worst thing was it was cut already therefore becomes smaller than the face of my two bats...the cut size of the topsheet stays the same with the size of the 729 blade...

anyway, i haven't used my new setup yet, though i had assembled it two months ago (remember the clipper,xp 2008 and my old tenergy 64)...

 

[Der_Echte]

Bishop, don't take all my BH rubber preferences too seriously, I can get by fine with just about any inverted rubber in 2.2 or max except anti. What is controllable or feels good to me on BH wing is an EPIC FAIL for many players on BH wing.

 

[Bishop Rasta 27]

Bishop, don't take all my BH rubber preferences too seriously, I can get by fine with just about any inverted rubber in 2.2 or max except anti. What is controllable or feels good to me on BH wing is an EPIC FAIL for many players on BH wing.

well, i haven't tried it anyway but i've been using a chinese rubber (729 super fx) for BH since i've started playing...i agree to you when you say it feels good and more controllable when it lose its tackiness, i say this because of experience...now if i have to try the H3 for BH, i'm gonna find a better rubber for FH because the existing pair of it is an old 729 super fx...its kinda playable anyway but of course, as an improving player, i gonna try some better options...that is why i bought the new setup hehehehe...thanks for inspiring me about the equipment hehehehe...aaaahhhh can't wait to use it..haven't played for how many months now, sigh!

well, anyway, here's the bat with chinese rubbers on both sides...

 

[Der_Echte]

I ended up removing the H3 with #19 sponge in utter disgust, simply a black hole, very weak rebound even after a new gluing. I think the sponge was designed for a good tuning product and worthless without it. The Neo versions are playable even after the factory tuning dissipates.

I had a sheet of 999 glued to a 42 degree AIR sponge laying around so I glued and cut 'er on. This thing plays almost just like a 999 on 42 degree Quattro sponge.

Now I can say this bat is a medium vibrating low end of OFF class. Good for countering close to table. Got gears on low and high end. BH openers with 999 spinny and deep, good feel. Gunna hafta play this one a few more times, but the early indications make it worth the whopping USD $50 I spent to make this bat.

 

[Kera]

I dont like chinese rubbers at all!

 

[Der_Echte]

Here Is the pic with 999 over 42 degree Air sponge. NOW this thing is beginning to perform like the low end OFF class vibrating thing I envisioned when I assembled it.