New Forehand rubber

[SendMeViscariaPLS]

I am currently using the Victas V22 Double Extra on both forehand and backhand on my Koki Niwa (Carbon) blade. I recently tried out the Rasanter C53 and loved it, beacuse I felt that it was easier to block with and the counter topspin was much easier to do than with the V22.
When I tried the Rasanter in training, I felt I had to work a lot more to get sufficient spin in my topspins.

I'm currently looking into some alternatives, which are a little harder than the V22, but not as hard to use as the C53 (Rasanter R53, Omega 7 Asia). I have also looked at the Tenergy 05 hard and the Dignics 05.

For those who have tried the T05H and D05, can you give some insights as to how these rubbers perform compared to the V22 and/or the C53

 

[hclnnkhg]

I am currently using the Victas V22 Double Extra on both forehand and backhand on my Koki Niwa (Carbon) blade. I recently tried out the Rasanter C53 and loved it, beacuse I felt that it was easier to block with and the counter topspin was much easier to do than with the V22.
When I tried the Rasanter in training, I felt I had to work a lot more to get sufficient spin in my topspins.

I'm currently looking into some alternatives, which are a little harder than the V22, but not as hard to use as the C53 (Rasanter R53, Omega 7 Asia). I have also looked at the Tenergy 05 hard and the Dignics 05.

For those who have tried the T05H and D05, can you give some insights as to how these rubbers perform compared to the V22 and/or the C53

V22 is supposed to be 50 deg whereas C53 is 53 deg so not much room between them. Have you tried V20?

 

[SendMeViscariaPLS]

V22 is supposed to be 50 deg whereas C53 is 53 deg so not much room between them. Have you tried V20?

I have in the past, but with a different blade. I actually still have this rubber. I'll go try it out in training tomorrow, thanks for the advice!

 

[TensorBackhand]

I am currently using the Victas V22 Double Extra on both forehand and backhand on my Koki Niwa (Carbon) blade. I recently tried out the Rasanter C53 and loved it, beacuse I felt that it was easier to block with and the counter topspin was much easier to do than with the V22.
When I tried the Rasanter in training, I felt I had to work a lot more to get sufficient spin in my topspins.

I'm currently looking into some alternatives, which are a little harder than the V22, but not as hard to use as the C53 (Rasanter R53, Omega 7 Asia). I have also looked at the Tenergy 05 hard and the Dignics 05.

For those who have tried the T05H and D05, can you give some insights as to how these rubbers perform compared to the V22 and/or the C53

You might take a look at Victas v20 or Tibhar K3 or Donic Bluestar A1

 

[SendMeViscariaPLS]

You might take a look at Victas v20 or Tibhar K3 or Donic Bluestar A1

Already tried the K3. I found it even harder to handle than the C53

 

[TensorBackhand]

Already tried the K3. I found it even harder to handle than the C53

Try Bluestar. It's 52.5 hardness, and probably easier to handle

 

[H3R0]

I am currently using the Victas V22 Double Extra on both forehand and backhand on my Koki Niwa (Carbon) blade. I recently tried out the Rasanter C53 and loved it, beacuse I felt that it was easier to block with and the counter topspin was much easier to do than with the V22.
When I tried the Rasanter in training, I felt I had to work a lot more to get sufficient spin in my topspins.

I'm currently looking into some alternatives, which are a little harder than the V22, but not as hard to use as the C53 (Rasanter R53, Omega 7 Asia). I have also looked at the Tenergy 05 hard and the Dignics 05.

For those who have tried the T05H and D05, can you give some insights as to how these rubbers perform compared to the V22 and/or the C53

If you find it hard to play with harder rubbers try smth softer. You can try Victas ventus extra or V15, if you r Victas funboy. Or just any hybrid/tensor rubber in 47~50 deg.
If its a problem with a topsheet of V22 or Rasanter, I would suggest Hurricane 3🌚. Cant go wrong with Hurricane, haha)

 

[SendMeViscariaPLS]

If you find it hard to play with harder rubbers try smth softer. You can try Victas ventus extra or V15, if you r Victas funboy. Or just any hybrid/tensor rubber in 47~50 deg.
If its a problem with a topsheet of V22 or Rasanter, I would suggest Hurricane 3🌚. Cant go wrong with Hurricane, haha)

Actually I am searching for a rubber that is harder than the V22, which is 50 degrees, but easier to handle than the C53.

 

[PaddyPolar]

Dignics 05 is a very good rubber for any playstyle. I have it on the backhand and it can let loose a massive shot as well as being capable to handle incoming spin very well. I don't know if this transfers the forehand with this rubber though. However Dignics 09c is very good for producing spin, maybe less good at handling the incoming spin. Generally, if you want a relatively controlling rubber, avoid hard tacky rubbers.

 

[SendMeViscariaPLS]

You might take a look at Victas v20 or Tibhar K3 or Donic Bluestar A1

V22 is supposed to be 50 deg whereas C53 is 53 deg so not much room between them. Have you tried V20?

I tried the V20 today in training. When I was doing Multiball training I feld like the rubber didn't grab the ball as good as I need it to. Might be because we had brand new balls and they always leave a layer of dust on the rubber, or because the V20 that I have is already a bit used. Not sure if this issue will be fixed with a brand new sheet. I will however try out the Xiom Omega 7 Asia, the Rasanter R53 and if I get the chance Dignics 05.

 

[TensorBackhand]

I tried the V20 today in training. When I was doing Multiball training I feld like the rubber didn't grab the ball as good as I need it to. Might be because we had brand new balls and they always leave a layer of dust on the rubber, or because the V20 that I have is already a bit used. Not sure if this issue will be fixed with a brand new sheet. I will however try out the Xiom Omega 7 Asia, the Rasanter R53 and if I get the chance Dignics 05.

I was testing out the R53 on fh last week. It's a very very fast and exciting rubber, but I think that without the tackiness it lacks some dwell time and control on fh. I maybe will try it for bh instead.

 

[Tomboov247]

I tried the V20 today in training. When I was doing Multiball training I feld like the rubber didn't grab the ball as good as I need it to. Might be because we had brand new balls and they always leave a layer of dust on the rubber, or because the V20 that I have is already a bit used. Not sure if this issue will be fixed with a brand new sheet. I will however try out the Xiom Omega 7 Asia, the Rasanter R53 and if I get the chance Dignics 05.

Seems like you settled for D05 FH - I actually use V22 (as BH) and Victas 401 as FH currently and after 4 months or so I plan to give D05 a try for FH. At the end what made you chose it over V22 , C53 or other rubbers? Your BH choice of T19 is also going to be my BH next try and I use FZD ALC

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

it's amazing! It's fabulous!

I recalled that 47.5 degree hardness was like the limit for amateur players during the heydays.

These days even amateur players are using pro level equipment even though their training regime is not even 30% that of a pro.

It's amazing! It's fabulous how things are evolving in the amateur space.

 

[Tomboov247]

it's amazing! It's fabulous!

I recalled that 47.5 degree hardness was like the limit for amateur players during the heydays.

These days even amateur players are using pro level equipment even though their training regime is not even 30% that of a pro.

It's amazing! It's fabulous how things are evolving in the amateur space.

There's a reason for this: The ball is different now, it is more profitable to counterloop than to block, but to do so you need stability, you do not want to rubber to compress too much and bottom out due to the heavier harder ball, and spin generation is lower with this ball so everyone needs to find a way to compensate if you want to stay competitive. Another reason is that very very hard rubbers before were very very unforgiving (H3!) however, more modern hard rubbers are slightly more forgiving especially on footwork.

If by amateur you mean beginners or low intermediate players, I fully understand your sarcasm... however skilled amateur players with good technical foundations can use hard rubbers and will have benefits from using them.

For instance, I recently changed from T05 to Victas 401 - mostly because the T05 ran out and I had always wanted to try Victas 401 - it's hard but it's much much more forgiving than H3 and I am using it with the same level as I use T05. I do not feel the hardness has any disadvantage because the sponge is still powerful and springy. Hard and totally dead may be a different story.