Opinion: Butterfly Pros using Tenergy were playing better than using Dignics

[wingman]

The shortest distance between two points is a straight line. Tenergy 05 has a high throw whereas Dignics 09C has a low throw. Therefore, Tenergy 05 travels a further distance through the air than Dignics 09C from the time it leaves the racket till the time it lands on the table. This additional distance and time mean that there is more air resistance with Tenergy 05. Hence, it is slower upon arrival on the other side of the table.

 

[\_Kairos_/]

...whereas Dignics 09C has a low throw.

First time I heard that...

 

[AutomaticBackhand]

I didn't read any of the thread yet, but my opinion is that Tenergy was holding europeans back the whole time and they were disadvantageous because of it.

Primarily on forehand but also in parts on backhand.

- Short touch and receive games was a big factor
- Less power in rallies - although it doesn't play such a big role
- Much worse in close to table counterloops - this is important
- Requires more "specific" technique, can't just hit hard with open angle and somehow always hit the table
- Power looping low underspin balls without overshooting the table.

The Dignics rubbers and overall hard semi-tacky hybrids solve these issue, at least in parts.

 

[Heming Hu]

As an ex pro who was sponsored by butterfly, I totally vouch for this (Under pressure, Tenergy 05 always brought me back home the bacon when it mattered, Dignics 05 failed me A LOT under real intense pressure). I used these two at different stages of my career on my backhand side. Dignics 05 was too stiff for my game, and you may ask (for those that know of me or know me) but Heming, you also used Hurricane on your backhand, what do you mean too hard?

Sticky rubbers (especially DHS level sticky) are different. When its sticky you can have a hard rubber that has benefits of soft and hard rubbers. If not for the stickiness, rubbers are often hard or soft and live with the pros and cons of each.

And to talk about Dignics 09c vs Hurricane vs Tenergy, If Tenergy and Hurricane were on two ends of a spectrum, Dignics 09c stickiness is barely anything to compared to Hurricane. Its a good rubber dont get me wrong, but they market it a as a sticky next level rubber with the reality that its not even close to hurricane, not even one bit. it would be a 3 at best on this spectrum of tenergy - Hurricane

 

[Tyce]

09c, T05 and H3 are really, really different types of rubber. It's almost like you're comparing front wheel drive, rear wheel drive and four wheel drive, yes they serve the same general purpose of propelling something, but go about it in very different ways.

I really like how Butterfly managed to come up with something like the 09c rubbers. Having basically the entire Internet reducing it to a two-dimensional comparison simply doesn't do any of the rubbers involved any justice.

 

[Der_Echte]

I can say that I cannot use ANY of the Diginiski rubbers at all. My kind of impact is not well suited.
I could use T05 in the early days when the sponge and topsheet were more dynamic... but modern T05 felt too stiff and not as dynamic... could use it only on a few blades.

T05FX had always suited me well, but the pricetag on that sucka was way too much.

In my days in Korea, I used a $8 BH rubber and got along with it very well, was very spinny and consistent with it... and that rubber lasted 3 months of daily use... so I COULD afford a sheet of T05 every month for FH... but when BTY jacked up the price 50%+, I said no way Jose that that stuff.

Regular Aurus can make every shot real easy (that is definition of control) and Aurus soft on BH lets me land a percent or two more balls on table with high quality.

Those rubbers are all I need. They cost me around $30 USD a sheet, which is a very reasonable price, especially considering they last me 500-600 hrs.

I could slap on a sheet of T05FX as a luxury... may I do that for a big tourney, but it isn't a requirement and I will not perish using what I use and trust - Tibhar Aurus.

You hear over and over pro players eventually or immediately say that it is absolute mission critical that they have a rubber they can trust and rely upon under pressure.

 

[Der_Echte]

The shortest distance between two points is a straight line. Tenergy 05 has a high throw whereas Dignics 09C has a low throw. Therefore, Tenergy 05 travels a further distance through the air than Dignics 09C from the time it leaves the racket till the time it lands on the table. This additional distance and time mean that there is more air resistance with Tenergy 05. Hence, it is slower upon arrival on the other side of the table.

This is good to discuss...

... the pros and cons of a rubber's inherent natural trajectory...

An obvious advantage of a lower throw rubber is that many of your pressure offensive shots land deeper to endline and bounce lower... we could argue there is more pace and spin with that too... what shouldn't be argued is that such a fast, deep, spinny, low bouncing shot is very troublesome to opponents.

An obvious con to low throw is that it is not such a "safe" rubber as high throw rubbers... meaning high throw rubbers usually easy to make good spin and it brings the ball back down with more consistency... meaning less misses and no matter how good or troublesome to opponent a shot it... it is nothing unless that shot lands on the table.

Another pro of low throw rubber is it makes it easier to counterhit or counter topspin an incoming ball that is loaded with topspin.

One shining example of such a rubber was Stiga Calibra LT... the harder the sponge the better it was for this shot... but it simply sucked rocks opening up heavy/safe vs underspin.