Pre Season Training & Matches

[Zezima]

From Todays Training Session. Put a new sheet of T19 and a used R7 sheet on my bh. I like this combination much more. Haven't tried it in an actual match though. I will be on Saturday in a RaceCup. Thinking about buying Nittaku Blastarc since it seems to be the same hardness and everything.

watch around after 0:30 two good openers in a row. In slowmo I could see I was using legs. Unlike in my old training vid where It looked like I am using legs but I wasn't using it really.

Here Matchplay with my old Setup that was worn out. I prob would have lost even with a new fresh setup.

here I played with d09c max bh and t19 fh both worn out. I also slept in the hall (it was a 48h racecup). So even during my sleep I heard the ball, the people shouting and screaming xD was fun. The kid has about 1850TTR. Last time which was 6months ago (he was 1650) he had R42 both sides and now playing with R48 both sides. I just suck against this kind of playstyle especially against players with these types of backhand "punches". Also pissed me off I couldn't attack his long serve properly.

This match probably fully displays my current Skill. I can truly shine if my opponent is a tiny bit more aggressive than me and doesn't have this punch bh.

I just don't know what to do with 2 packaged d09c rubbers. I don't want to sell them "cheaper" Is it bad if I save them up for next year?
I also realized how different a new T19 feels compared to a used one. T19 fresh feels so much better and I can hear that click sound again. A used one still produces spin ( not so much) loses the sound and also the feeling gets more "numb" like g1 but much worse. A used g1 gave more feedback and felt more alive than a used t19. Almost wanted to switch to g1 if a new t19 felt worse than a used g1. But I will stick with a t19 now and just change the rubber more frequently so instead of 6 months I will go 3 or 4months max.


Right now my training goes well. Especially my fh. As you can see in the training video I think I improved quite a bit.

here an old video of my loop vs backspin technique

 

[biaxialerzug]

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[Archosaurus]

I think if your partner pushed heavy backspin to you, you'd have an easier time finding ways to improve your technique. I feel like you can get away with a lot of things because the receive has no quality on it. Maybe that's the point of the drill, in that case I apologize.

 

[Zezima]

I think if your partner pushed heavy backspin to you, you'd have an easier time finding ways to improve your technique. I feel like you can get away with a lot of things because the receive has no quality on it. Maybe that's the point of the drill, in that case I apologize.

I actually prefer a lot of backspin but in real matches I barely get that kind of push. I actually do get these types of pushes mainly. People at/around my level are better at looping and killing points (technique wise not consistency wise) than pushing. So if they are "forced" to push they try to not make mistakes but don't really put pressure on it.

As I said I also prefer lots of backspin. Look at my old technique. I prefer using my elbow and just going up brushing the ball only. No speed behind the ball. And the more backspin the ball has the more I can brush upwards and I don't have to be scared of looping out.

I do tend to loop more out if I try to put more power into the shots. It just recently got better as you can see around 30sec and onwards in the new vid. Next step is using that kind of shot in actual matches.

 

[Archosaurus]

I actually prefer a lot of backspin but in real matches I barely get that kind of push. I actually do get these types of pushes mainly. People at/around my level are better at looping and killing points (technique wise not consistency wise) than pushing. So if they are "forced" to push they try to not make mistakes but don't really put pressure on it.

As I said I also prefer lots of backspin. Look at my old technique. I prefer using my elbow and just going up brushing the ball only. No speed behind the ball. And the more backspin the ball has the more I can brush upwards and I don't have to be scared of looping out.

I do tend to loop more out if I try to put more power into the shots. It just recently got better as you can see around 30sec and onwards in the new vid. Next step is using that kind of shot in actual matches.

Weird. Maybe it's a cultural thing.

It's not bad to practice against that kind of shot because you will indeed get a lot of those in real matches if your serve is good. I just think it can hide deficiencies. Do you have video of you looping heavy backspin?

 

[Zezima]

Weird. Maybe it's a cultural thing.

It's not bad to practice against that kind of shot because you will indeed get a lot of those in real matches if your serve is good. I just think it can hide deficiencies. Do you have video of you looping heavy backspin?

No unless if you can find an example in the matches I linked. But I doubt it. The kid wants to play loop and punch and the other younger adult wants to loop. Both are not pressuring with pushes afair

 

[Archosaurus]

No unless if you can find an example in the matches I linked. But I doubt it. The kid wants to play loop and punch and the other younger adult wants to loop. Both are not pressuring with pushes afair

Could be a player specific thing then. I reckon if you serve heavy short backspin, you will get a lot more heavy push returns. Yours isn't light per-se but it's not really heavy enough to force a backspin return IMO.

Maybe I'm talking out of my ass, but that's what I've found serving even to State players here (I guess 2000-2100 TTR?).

 

[Sriver1]

Now you have to use your hips and move your feet faster.

 

[NetProphet]

From Todays Training Session. Put a new sheet of T19 and a used R7 sheet on my bh. I like this combination much more. Haven't tried it in an actual match though. I will be on Saturday in a RaceCup. Thinking about buying Nittaku Blastarc since it seems to be the same hardness and everything.

watch around after 0:30 two good openers in a row. In slowmo I could see I was using legs. Unlike in my old training vid where It looked like I am using legs but I wasn't using it really.

Here Matchplay with my old Setup that was worn out. I prob would have lost even with a new fresh setup.

here I played with d09c max bh and t19 fh both worn out. I also slept in the hall (it was a 48h racecup). So even during my sleep I heard the ball, the people shouting and screaming xD was fun. The kid has about 1850TTR. Last time which was 6months ago (he was 1650) he had R42 both sides and now playing with R48 both sides. I just suck against this kind of playstyle especially against players with these types of backhand "punches". Also pissed me off I couldn't attack his long serve properly.

This match probably fully displays my current Skill. I can truly shine if my opponent is a tiny bit more aggressive than me and doesn't have this punch bh.

I just don't know what to do with 2 packaged d09c rubbers. I don't want to sell them "cheaper" Is it bad if I save them up for next year?
I also realized how different a new T19 feels compared to a used one. T19 fresh feels so much better and I can hear that click sound again. A used one still produces spin ( not so much) loses the sound and also the feeling gets more "numb" like g1 but much worse. A used g1 gave more feedback and felt more alive than a used t19. Almost wanted to switch to g1 if a new t19 felt worse than a used g1. But I will stick with a t19 now and just change the rubber more frequently so instead of 6 months I will go 3 or 4months max.


Right now my training goes well. Especially my fh. As you can see in the training video I think I improved quite a bit.

here an old video of my loop vs backspin technique

I tried to follow but it's just equipment equipment equipment.
Have you not chosen a rubber yet?
Also, I don't see the relevance of telling us what the opponents use?
Aside from it being pips or anti, any inverted rubber isn't the reason they're winning or losing, it's their gameplay right?

One Q; your serves in the first vid that he pushed back for you to loop, do they ever get attacked in matches? Most of them seemed to be drifting long...

 

[biaxialerzug]

From my perspective two things:
1) It seems that you can't dictate your game to your opponent. In a lot of rallies, even when you serve, it looks like that you don't know what do you want to do. Look at the race video, 12:30min. This is what you want, serve in a way that the third ball already creates pressure. He does it two times in a row. Look at 18:13min, you serve long so you can expect that he will attack the ball. So either you counter it with a topspin or you have to place the ball in a way that he has problems. But you tried a passive block (even when the block would have passed the net, he would have attacked it). So before you serve, you need a plan.
Short serve, If you get a push -> attack or long and heavy push and place the following active ball.
Long serve, if you get a attack -> stay close to the table and either counter spin it or active block (maybe into his body).
2) I don't like your footwork. Honesty, look at your opponent. He is doing the small steps to adjust his position. He is moving constantly. You don't do this, but you need it!

 

[Zezima]

Could be a player specific thing then. I reckon if you serve heavy short backspin, you will get a lot more heavy push returns. Yours isn't light per-se but it's not really heavy enough to force a backspin return IMO.

Maybe I'm talking out of my ass, but that's what I've found serving even to State players here (I guess 2000-2100 TTR?).

I don't know why but I perform much better if I serve this kind of backspin (spinwise) Anything more and they just need to hold out the right racket angle and the ball comes low and fast to my side. I don't have the needed reactiontime to get in position to loop then.

Now you have to use your hips and move your feet faster.

I might not be able to use it on every shot (depends if I am in position) but for example after 0:30 I do use it?

I tried to follow but it's just equipment equipment equipment.
Have you not chosen a rubber yet?
Also, I don't see the relevance of telling us what the opponents use?
Aside from it being pips or anti, any inverted rubber isn't the reason they're winning or losing, it's their gameplay right?

One Q; your serves in the first vid that he pushed back for you to loop, do they ever get attacked in matches? Most of them seemed to be drifting long...

The relevance is that I found it interesting what the kids use since their body is still developing and interesting to see what people who get coached 3-4x time a week use and how they move from one equipment to other. If it doesn't interest you then it doesn't. I can't write everything that only interests you I am sorry.

And if you had read my post more carefully you would have read this part aswell: "I prob would have lost even with a new fresh setup."

Sometimes they get attacked so far only the 1800+ give me trouble but he has to be left handed. Sometimes even if they loop if my next block is good I get in a favored position. Also depends if the 1800+ is a very young player or an adult that struggles if the ball comes back fast to him.

From my perspective two things:
1) It seems that you can't dictate your game to your opponent. In a lot of rallies, even when you serve, it looks like that you don't know what do you want to do. Look at the race video, 12:30min. This is what you want, serve in a way that the third ball already creates pressure. He does it two times in a row. Look at 18:13min, you serve long so you can expect that he will attack the ball. So either you counter it with a topspin or you have to place the ball in a way that he has problems. But you tried a passive block (even when the block would have passed the net, he would have attacked it). So before you serve, you need a plan.
Short serve, If you get a push -> attack or long and heavy push and place the following active ball.
Long serve, if you get a attack -> stay close to the table and either counter spin it or active block (maybe into his body).
2) I don't like your footwork. Honesty, look at your opponent. He is doing the small steps to adjust his position. He is moving constantly. You don't do this, but you need it!

which video vs Put?

 

[Sriver1]

What I see is that the hips follow the arm. The hips should lead.

 

[biaxialerzug]

which video vs Put?

Yes

 

[Zezima]

What I see is that the hips follow the arm. The hips should lead.

I see hips leading here

 

[Lula]

Nice to see that you are working hard. I just watched the first video
- maybe it is the angle of the camera but the strokes seems pretty small, like you are holding in the stroke?
- I also think you could push more from the ground on the first stroke and when you try to loop hard try use hip even more, push it forward. Like if you are goin to throw something far away
- good to differentiate i think between slow loop with spin or hard loop. Inbetween is not as good as first loop
- get more spin in the stroke. The harder opening loop maybe need to have thicked contact but it seems in general like the ball sometimes go out since you get a thick contact. At least if he push less backspin.
Maybe try this for more spin:
- practice half long pushes to loop at or loop loop. When the ball is under the net you need to create more spin
- let the forearm loose
- closed racket angle, at least on the second loop. Starting with the racket higher and come out more will also make you go over the ball more
- maybe more backhandgrip. Hard to change grip. I would say that a lot of players today have more backhandgrip. A little more backhand grip will give you less thick contact

I think i would practice:
- like you do now but focus on getting forearm loose and get a lot of spin. Then coming out and following up good. Need to be beneficial to get the first loop, so have to be good at second loop
- multiball and try to loop hard by pushing from leg and hip. Maybe worth trying to exaggerate almost not moving arm at all just to get the feeling
- maybe try some more backhand grip. Think this could help backhand and give more spin in forehand without changing anything else

I think it is wise to think about making it functional and working. Technique is not everything. But i think you do a lot of good things aswell!
like:
- low serve
- racket in the middle at the beginning and between strokes
- bending legs pretty well and moves out good
- also seem very serious

Keep up the good work

 

[NetProphet]

The relevance is that I found it interesting what the kids use since their body is still developing and interesting to see what people who get coached 3-4x time a week use and how they move from one equipment to other. If it doesn't interest you then it doesn't. I can't write everything that only interests you I am sorry.

And if you had read my post more carefully you would have read this part aswell: "I prob would have lost even with a new fresh setup."

Sometimes they get attacked so far only the 1800+ give me trouble but he has to be left handed. Sometimes even if they loop if my next block is good I get in a favored position. Also depends if the 1800+ is a very young player or an adult that struggles if the ball comes back fast to him.


which video vs Put?

My point is that after 2 yrs of similar posts you are still so equipment focused. Fresh setup, what even does that mean, as if new rubbers will change a result? Exactly what I'm talking about.
The reason I say this is that the serious players I know pretty much have ej and improvement as mutually exclusive concepts.
Anyway I obviously wasn't asking you to write things just to interest me; it's when the post is scattered through 'this level', 'that level, 'this equipment', 'that equipment' then it's kinda difficult to see the actual point of your post, or the conclusion.
But no worries, you need my responses about as much as I need your sarcasm.
You seem to have a habit of alienating many peo who engage with you. 🤷

 

[Sriver1]

Most of the time your left hip goes back more than the right one goes forward. So you don't put your weight on the ball. Look how your right hip does not surpass the left one. That's because your arm has finished the stoke before the hip has completed the movement.

 

[Yurifi]

is this your "practice" serve or real serve? because, man ... this is not okay, easily attackable. also - try to find someone who can really play real, quality pushes. this is ... no disrespect to the gentleman, he is actually playing very well for the age, but yeah ... these are easy balls. it's hard to improve with pushes like that and you get false feeling ... you think you are nailing it, but ... you aren't ... this is why I practice with kids - u11, u13, u15 - so they get quality balls, I also have a good sense in reading the play and I can even start squeezing them and they have to really get into the ball. and also, if they serve bad I show them what can happen if they serve bad.

 

[Zezima]

Most of the time your left hip goes back more than the right one goes forward. So you don't put your weight on the ball. Look how your right hip does not surpass the left one. That's because your arm has finished the stoke before the hip has completed the movement.

Noone hits the ball with the hips finished rotating in to the ball. And in slowmo I could see my hip starting to rotate into the ball

 

[Zezima]

is this your "practice" serve or real serve? because, man ... this is not okay, easily attackable. also - try to find someone who can really play real, quality pushes. this is ... no disrespect to the gentleman, he is actually playing very well for the age, but yeah ... these are easy balls. it's hard to improve with pushes like that and you get false feeling ... you think you are nailing it, but ... you aren't ... this is why I practice with kids - u11, u13, u15 - so they get quality balls, I also have a good sense in reading the play and I can even start squeezing them and they have to really get into the ball. and also, if they serve bad I show them what can happen if they serve bad.

I don't have the luxury to chose my practise partners. Ofc it looks easy since I do the same serve. In matchplay I vary so you won't attack them well otherwise I would get smacked around my TTR from my serves which doesn't happen.