Quan Shi Bao is amazing

[Zwill]

The Quanshibao F1 is a good rubber. First I tried it on a Lin Yun-Ju blade which was not mine and it felt like STN, spinny, quite hard, bit flat arc. Funnily it didn't feel particularly fast on this blade for sure around STN speed which is not bad but not special, but it felt hard and not fast enough to consider much.

One player gave me a barely used sheet to try out. I glued it on my "2nd" Wang Manyu blade (which is actually my first one, but since I did tear a bit of top ply off then fixed it with liquid wood filler I moved it to 2nd blade)
Anyway this rubber is good. Maybe the racket is too good but the rubber is good too.

I'll give you my very best analogy: it's like a boosted H3N BS when the booster is starting to wear off the Hurricane. It's not worn off yet, it's still like 80% but it's still very capable. Like imagine you have the best H3N BS boosted up and in primetime nothing, abosolutely nothing is as good. That 1-2 weeks time is the peak, the very same rubber and paddle will never be as good. (only if you buy a new rubber and boost it perfect again)
Then you get to week 4-5 and it is still very good but you can't make the same shots with the same speed and spin anymore but you put it on the table good enough and you still do some magical shots just a bit slower.
Well I would put the Quanshibao-F1 around this time. It has the same feeling ball holding, dragging topsheet with tons of contact time, but it's quite fast too. Almost as fast as Glayzer, maybe around 80% as fast on simple bounce test. That is a very impressive speed for an unboosted tacky Chinese rubber.
Sponge feels very similar to H3BS 40deg around 4-5 time after boosting the topsheet feels like that too. Tackyness is there but like H3 after boosting and 4-5 weeks too, which is plenty good.

The Power F1 feels like some DHS H3 BS beta rubber in case somehow boosting was banned and enforced so they have some immediate backup... Is it perfect or best? Nope. Is it good? Very.

Actually an unboosting H3N BS has some advantages too, a bit better control over the table, bit longer contact time on weaker shots, a bit lighter, (yeah this rubber cut is around 47-48g, not bad at all).

With the Wang Manyu blade it feels much faster than with the LYJ, more bouncy, more soft, less deflective and eats the ball more.

On my Wang Manyu blade it's better than Hovering dragon spec, LAC Pro, STN, B3, and competes with H3N BS Prov at 40deg. I can imagine it working with H301, Cybershape, W968 blades since it's quite fast. I think it absolutely doesn't work with too hard blades.

The biggest downside of this rubber you can only buy from Taobao or from Fang Bo's circle. But I would encourage people to try superbuy or parcelup etc to get it. Maybe it's jumping a few hoops but I think it's worth it.

 

[Zwill]

1 month and around 40-50 hours later I can say the same as before. The topsheet looks just as when I got the rubber, tack is not worse than recent H3, can pick up the ball but doesn't hold it much, but I didn't have any issues with the tack or grip so I would say it's more than sufficient.

I used it in the most hot weather ever. Like 35 degrees indoors and 43 outdoors, humidity at 70% indoors, I literally sweat my butt off.
I don't see any wear on the rubber, no bubbles, no oxidation, nothing at all. I do use a plastic protector after play but I don't even use any cleaner, just breathe on the rubber and rub it with my palm.

I don't feel any particular break in or softening of the sponge. Maybe a smidge but it's less than what Butterfly rubbers do during break in.

I'm very happy with this rubber on my FH side and I have bought a few extra sheets.
I will glue one on my recently acquired Ice Cream AZX Pro ALC side and a Glayzer on BH side but I'm a bit scared if I will like that paddle as much as the Inspira Plus.

I'm actually in the pursuit of converting both my FH and BH according to what Chinese coaches are telling me and it's a bit of a struggle but also a bit of a fun. So right about now I'm a but hesitant to switch gears, but I feel the rubber can take the AZX blade even tho I said too hard might not be the way.

If somone gave me a H3BS that is starting to de-boost and this rubber in a blind test on different days I'm not sure I could tell which is which.

 

[laowa]

Anyone one knows where to get the Performance P1 rubber?

 

[Julzig]

Anyone one knows where to get the Performance P1 rubber?

I think they sell it via Douyin. Not sure how this will work outside of China

Edit: Oh at the beginning of the thread there are more possibilites on how to acquire it.

 

[Fshtt]

Has anyone tried the quanshibao performance p1?

 

[Kilogramme]

1 month and around 40-50 hours later I can say the same as before. The topsheet looks just as when I got the rubber, tack is not worse than recent H3, can pick up the ball but doesn't hold it much, but I didn't have any issues with the tack or grip so I would say it's more than sufficient.

I used it in the most hot weather ever. Like 35 degrees indoors and 43 outdoors, humidity at 70% indoors, I literally sweat my butt off.
I don't see any wear on the rubber, no bubbles, no oxidation, nothing at all. I do use a plastic protector after play but I don't even use any cleaner, just breathe on the rubber and rub it with my palm.

I don't feel any particular break in or softening of the sponge. Maybe a smidge but it's less than what Butterfly rubbers do during break in.

I'm very happy with this rubber on my FH side and I have bought a few extra sheets.
I will glue one on my recently acquired Ice Cream AZX Pro ALC side and a Glayzer on BH side but I'm a bit scared if I will like that paddle as much as the Inspira Plus.

I'm actually in the pursuit of converting both my FH and BH according to what Chinese coaches are telling me and it's a bit of a struggle but also a bit of a fun. So right about now I'm a but hesitant to switch gears, but I feel the rubber can take the AZX blade even tho I said too hard might not be the way.

If somone gave me a H3BS that is starting to de-boost and this rubber in a blind test on different days I'm not sure I could tell which is which.

Do you play with it on your main racket now ? Have you tried the Performance P1 and SuperSpeed S1 as well ?

I played Vega China because I was tired of boosting H3, and the boost lasting 2w. Your description looks promising. A H3like without boosting, and last well and works in summer.
Did you played the Red one too (speed 08?) ? or just the black one with blue spong Power F1 ?

 

[Zwill]

Do you play with it on your main racket now ? Have you tried the Performance P1 and SuperSpeed S1 as well ?

I played Vega China because I was tired of boosting H3, and the boost lasting 2w. Your description looks promising. A H3like without boosting, and last well and works in summer.
Did you played the Red one too (speed 08?) ? or just the black one with blue spong Power F1 ?

I played the P1 but not the S1. The P1 is heavy and hard and for sure needs boost, without it it's very difficult. I think F1 is just right. I like it more than Vega China since the topsheet is more grippy. Actually I might glue it on my main racket since I am now curious how it compares to boosted H3 and B3 and the Rxton 7.

 

[Kilogramme]

I played the P1 but not the S1. The P1 is heavy and hard and for sure needs boost, without it it's very difficult. I think F1 is just right. I like it more than Vega China since the topsheet is more grippy. Actually I might glue it on my main racket since I am now curious how it compares to boosted H3 and B3 and the Rxton 7.

What is B3 ?

When you say grippy, what do you mean ? Because in my vocabulary, grippy is tenergy/Dignics (not 09c) kind of grip. The topsheet is deforming arround the ball, and the movment of the pimple acting like a spring, getting back into original straight position, makes the ball rotate. Whereas Tacky, is like sticky sheet rotating the ball (in reality topsheet is still doing grippy motion like tenergy, but with the tacky added).
Because If the rubber is not tacky, meh. But you stated it holds the ball, so I am confused and need clarification.

 

[Zwill]

It has tacky topsheet, but some topsheet grip the ball better than others. I feel with sticky ESN rubbers they don't grip the ball so much, I tried quite tacky Chinese rubbers that also felt like they don't grip the ball very well.
While F1 I wouldn't consider to be very sticky, in fact it's probably in the less sticky category it still grips the ball more than a lot of sticker stuff.

B3 is 729 battle 3.

 

[Kilogramme]

It has tacky topsheet, but some topsheet grip the ball better than others. I feel with sticky ESN rubbers they don't grip the ball so much, I tried quite tacky Chinese rubbers that also felt like they don't grip the ball very well.
While F1 I wouldn't consider to be very sticky, in fact it's probably in the less sticky category it still grips the ball more than a lot of sticker stuff.

B3 is 729 battle 3.

It can still holds the ball few sec ? Now that I tried to play with grippy ESN/Jap rubber, I can't. I need tackiness. Even Rakza Z felt non enough tacky for me. I like to tiny brush the ball, it surprises the opponent a lot. He thinks, there is no spin, but it is massively spinny.

 

[Zwill]

It can still holds the ball few sec ? Now that I tried to play with grippy ESN/Jap rubber, I can't. I need tackiness. Even Rakza Z felt non enough tacky for me. I like to tiny brush the ball, it surprises the opponent a lot. He thinks, there is no spin, but it is massively spinny.

Maybe for a sec it holds the ball. I think F1 and Pinyi Cuifeng are both good picks. Maybe F1 is nicer to use and Cuifeng has a bit more potential. Really hard to make a choice among them.
I tried Vega China and while it's a great rubber the topsheet is not as good as F1.

 

[Kilogramme]

Maybe for a sec it holds the ball. I think F1 and Pinyi Cuifeng are both good picks. Maybe F1 is nicer to use and Cuifeng has a bit more potential. Really hard to make a choice among them.
I tried Vega China and while it's a great rubber the topsheet is not as good as F1.

IDK how much you tried Vega China, but if you can compare to the F1, that would be nice. Remind me on what blade you played F1 ? Limba inner carbon, Koto Outer carbon ?

 

[Zwill]

I used it mostly on Xiom Ice Cream AZX Pro and Stiga Inspira Plus, both koto, outer ALC blades.
Well the F1 topsheet and general feel is more like a H3 BS that is like 50-60% boosted, the contact time is quite long, the sponge is only a little bouncy but it eats the ball a lot. Vega China has more bounce and less contact time and more elastic sponge but because of that it's a bit harder to use in my opinion. I felt Vega China maybe more suitable on W968, but the F1 is very good on Viscaria type blade. I say F1 is not bouncy but it's not slow either, it has good speed.

F1 is a bit lighter than Vega China too but the biggest advantage is the topsheet, the F1 topsheet is just better. I even say I prefer it over G09c topsheet on FH side. In fact it would be a good BH rubber too for me if it existed in red. I also quite enjoyed to fool around with double H3N BS on my racket.

 

[Kilogramme]

I used it mostly on Xiom Ice Cream AZX Pro and Stiga Inspira Plus, both koto, outer ALC blades.
Well the F1 topsheet and general feel is more like a H3 BS that is like 50-60% boosted, the contact time is quite long, the sponge is only a little bouncy but it eats the ball a lot. Vega China has more bounce and less contact time and more elastic sponge but because of that it's a bit harder to use in my opinion. I felt Vega China maybe more suitable on W968, but the F1 is very good on Viscaria type blade. I say F1 is not bouncy but it's not slow either, it has good speed.

F1 is a bit lighter than Vega China too but the biggest advantage is the topsheet, the F1 topsheet is just better. I even say I prefer it over G09c topsheet on FH side. In fact it would be a good BH rubber too for me if it existed in red. I also quite enjoyed to fool around with double H3N BS on my racket.

I saw one of Fang Bo's student boosting it. SO I am curious. But looks promising. Indeed The Vega China works well on Golden HL5. I would say, sometime, the throw is very low, much lower than H3 BS, and kinda put the ball into the net. But it is advantageous when you do a massive shot, higher arc would put the ball out of the table.

 

[Kilogramme]

I should get my F1 and 08 in 2 to 3 days according to DHS.

Other than that, Kean TT made a video to briefly review both rubber.

 

[Kilogramme]

@Zwill i received my F1 and 08. I am hesitant to boost them... Just a tiny to break in.
Anyway, for those who wants to know weight a sponge/sheet looks. Here some picture.
F1 : 67g with protective plastic sheet
08 : 64g with protective sheet.
The packaging from SuperBuy is well protected. Sealed envelope in a bubble envelope in a box.

 

[MOJOJOJO-74]

@Zwill i received my F1 and 08. I am hesitant to boost them... Just a tiny to break in.
Anyway, for those who wants to know weight a sponge/sheet looks. Here some picture.
F1 : 67g with protective plastic sheet
08 : 64g with protective sheet.
The packaging from SuperBuy is well protected. Sealed envelope in a bubble envelope in a box.

Are you thinking of comparing it to H3 or D09c? I've heard of the rubbers, but never really have much access to it from US.