Rubber help

[SwampFoxx]

Hello, I would like to change my forehand rubber; I am currently using the rasanter r47 ultramax sponge, but I think it’s too advanced for me. My blade is a Donic Persson Power Carbon Senso V1, what would be a good rubber for my forehand? I would say I’m a slightly lower end intermediate player and struggle a bit with my forehand loop.

I was looking at the T05, but it’s a bit expensive and apparently not very durable. Any suggestions are very greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

 

[Zwill]

Fastarc G-1, Donic Baracuda, Rozena, Xiom Vega Europe, Stiga Mantra Control, Victas Swat Spin.

I guess the Swat Spin is a pretty good option, these new Japanese (non butterfly) made rubbers are very nice and easy to use.

 

[merlin el mago]

With Fastarc G-1 you will improve your FH, with Rozena no improvement but you return all balls, take your poison....

 

[NakiMaki]

With Fastarc G-1 you will improve your FH, with Rozena no improvement but you return all balls, take your poison....

Rozena is very good for both intermediate and beginners

 

[merlin el mago]

I no agree.

 

[yodachi]

We recommend the HEXER GRIP series.

It has the same spin performance as the R47, but slightly lower bounce.

It has good trajectory and arc.

 

[Amaken23]

You want to replace R47 with Tenergy, which has the same sponge hardness
I'd recommend some rubbers without that much catapult so it does not bounce off racket as fast. I'd recommend some chinese rubbers, like Yinhe Moon Mid-hard. Cheap, slower than both rubbers mentioned in original post and little tacky. They have less catapult effect which will help you control and place your shots better.

 

[Julzig]

One more vote for something like Swat Spin.
T05 might be even worse than R47, those bouncy high grip Rubbers arent really forgiving.

 

[mocker88]

If you like tensor kind of rubbers, try Joola - Tronix CMD. It's soft 42.5deg and easy to play with. Very forgiving.

Otherwise perhaps 729 - Focus III Snipe 42/44deg, Palio AK47 Blue/Yellow or Yinhe - Mercury III Euro. These are super easy to play with. Light weight, grippy and fairly bouncy.

 

[SwampFoxx]

Rozena is very good for both intermediate and beginners

Yes, I forgot to mention that I use Rozena on bh; it's a great rubber

 

[SwampFoxx]

Thanks for the replies everyone, I think my list so far would be:

Fastarc G-1
Xiom Vega Europe


What is the best sponge thickness for each of these? And I don't know if it matters but my fh rubber is black

 

[Scarfed Garchomp]

Thanks for the replies everyone, I think my list so far would be:

Fastarc G-1
Xiom Vega Europe


What is the best sponge thickness for each of these? And I don't know if it matters but my fh rubber is black

Vega Euro is a lot softer than G1 and R47, and even softer and much slower than Rozena. I don't know if you'd like that. G1 and Rakza 7 are more similar in hardness to R47, but are older in terms of technology, they prioritize grip first over speed and bounce, R7 being a bit softer and with higher arc than G1. I think G1 is a really safe bet, 2.0 is fine

 

[SwampFoxx]

Vega Euro is a lot softer than G1 and R47, and even softer and much slower than Rozena. I don't know if you'd like that. G1 and Rakza 7 are more similar in hardness to R47, but are older in terms of technology, they prioritize grip first over speed and bounce, R7 being a bit softer and with higher arc than G1. I think G1 is a really safe bet, 2.0 is fine

I don't really know what the best choice would be, I'm kind of struggling with my forehand loop and weight transfer, but I've read that the G-1 is good for developing that; I didn't like the R47 as much, I think it was too advanced or too hard for me, something like that, it was kind of weird to play with, and I just struggled with it. So if I go with the G-1, I wouldn't want it to be the same as that. So I have a few questions:

Is the G1 a little slower than the R47, with good control and not as difficult to put the ball on the table?
What is the difference between the softness and hardness (For example, the Vega Euro vs the G1)?
Why is 2.0 the best option?

Sorry for all the questions, I just don't want to pick a rubber that will cost me in the long run. Thanks in advance!

 

[golden_son]

Both G-1 and Rakza 7 are good for learning looping and proper weight transfer, timing, and acceleration. I learned on R7 before "upgrading" to G-1 but they aren't significantly different; G-1 just feels like it has a higher ceiling than R7 while still being fairly linear. If you're stepping down from Rasanter R47 you'll probably be fine with either, but if you really want to focus on learning and minimizing mistakes at first I'd suggest going with Rakza 7. It's only going to last a handful of months anyway (depending on how often you play - it is quite durable), so you can always switch to G-1 after if you feel ready for it.

G-1 and Rakza 7 are the same sponge hardness as R47 but the formula and topsheets are different so they feel different. R7 feels a little softer while G-1 still feels a little firmer due to its harder topsheet. Neither has the *POP* (both sound and feeling) that I associate with the Rasanter line and are consequently a little easier to control. Vega Euro is much much softer, even softer than your Rozena. Personally, I hated Vega Euro; it felt like mush. But I know it's popular. My coach recommends it and my practice partner uses it, though both for backhand.

As for thickness, I always recommend MAX. Thinner sponges are mostly beneficial for defenders or pure beginners, or if you want to shave a couple grams from your racket weight. (Even my coach put me on Rakza 7 MAX from day one.) You're already switching from a very springy tensor so even the extra thickness won't be as bouncy as the R47 you've been using.