Rubber is still tacky but slips the ball

[Zwill]

So please someone tell me what is going on with H3N topsheet. The topsheet still is tacky, it can lift the ball 30-40cm consistently. I get it that this is not very tacky but it is tacky nevertheless. But when you find a thin contact angle with the ball the ball slips. (makes that "cccc" sound)
There are other rubbers that lift the ball about the same height so the tack is comparable but the ball doesn't slip. (or at even more thin angles)
I'm pretty sure I hit the crap out of my H3 BS but just tell me why does this happen after 6 weeks, maybe less?

On another note I have a DHS Qiji blue sponge and I yet to find a thin angle when it slips. That rubber has been exposed to sun, air, whatever for more than a year, yet no oxidation no slippage. I really need to make an effort to make it slip, but at that point you can't fit a molecule between the ball and the topsheet.

I'm curious how can H3N be tacky and slippery at the same time.

 

[vvk1]

You're deluding yourself if your think you "hit through crap of out it" and the ball slipped.

 

[Zwill]

You're deluding yourself if your think you "hit through crap of out it" and the ball slipped.

I didn't say it happens when I hit the crap out of it, I just mentioned that in the past I hit the crap out of that rubber. I can just do a very simple spin test and it does that slipping noise very consistently and it's not just a noise, the ball slips. Even grippy (not the most grippy like Vega Asia) rubbers don't do it like this H3N. And it can still lift the ball from a stationary state with the same H3N. There is no mistake in this, it's 2 really simple test, one general spin test from your hand and a lift test from your hand.

 

[doppelmoral]

I am using the cheapest 20€ commercial h3n on my blade right now and the ball doesnt slip, just fyi

 

[Scarfed Garchomp]

Provincial grade? Hurricane has a thick topsheet, perhaps that's it?

 

[Zwill]

I am using the cheapest 20€ commercial h3n on my blade right now and the ball doesnt slip, just fyi

Yes, I also would like to refrain from stating that in new state it did this. It did not. I know H3N doesn slip the ball new, even the commercial one doesn't.

Provincial grade? Hurricane has a thick topsheet, perhaps that's it?

I don't know, doesn't feel like the ticker topsheet is the cause.

Can the booster oil mix with the rubber in a way it makes this? I am really just guessing what is going on.
The sponge of this rubber has become really soft too. It should be 40deg but it feels like 36-7. Could I have obverboosted the rubber? Sure. But more like a over re-boost. Then again the rubber is still @47g cut possibly overboosted so it's really in the weight spec.

 

[Tyce]

Hey, did you ever get anywhere with this? I have a sheet of Dianchi D which is perfectly tacky, still looks almost pristine but the ball just slips on it, with a screeching high squeaking sound. Replaced it with an older sheet of H3 commercial and the squeak is gone.

It's not just on super thin contact, also when I hit slightly harder and forward. Slow high loops still work but a little more aggressive goes squeaking into the net.
The rubber has been boosted, lightly, doesn't feel mushy to me

 

[Zwill]

Not at all, but it seems some others had this issue as well. I really don't know if it's a H3 thing or boosting related or oxidation. The rubber looks perfectly fine tho, but as you say even on not so thin contact it slips. During countering it's unusable.

 

[Gtsnake]

I've noticed that my H3 Prov squeeks when I do the spin test. However during play I don't notice any slippage. I think with very light contact with less tackiness it will slip a little and give you the squeek. However when you compress the top sheet there is no squeek.

I think as the rubber wears the tackiness wears off slightly and becomes more of mechanical grip versus tack grip. So I replace my rubber when I notice a bigger wear spot on the rubber and I start losing some control during the short game.

 

[Ishmaelkhan]

this happens with my STN too (new version with blue sponge). Rubber is great and all but sometimes I feel that this 'screeching' on the topsheet is a hindrance, especially during topspin against rallies (or maybe I'm just hitting wrong)

 

[banbekas]

There's no way your rubber will slip if you actually have a good contact with the ball. Slipping like that happen only when you brush it too thinly or you misshit the ball.