Rumour new Butterfly flagship rubber

[SFF_lib]

So does it mean like R53 type of design? Thinner topsheet + thicker sponge?

 

[zeio]

Rumored to be priced over JP¥10,000...

If this patent is for Zeed 03 and/or Zyre 03, then it may come with a softer sponge at 36° and a grippy topsheet given that thinness?

卓球用ラバー
https://patents.google.com/patent/JP7428448B1

([Problem] To provide a novel technique for a rubber for table tennis which makes it easier to apply spin and can further increase the speed of a hit ball.
[Solution] A rubber for table tennis includes: a sponge-like sheet; and a rubber sheet which is laminated and stuck on the sponge-like sheet and in which a plurality of projections are formed on a sticking surface of a rubber sheet body to the sponge-like sheet. The thickness of the rubber sheet in a lamination direction with the sponge-like sheet is 1.6 mm or less. When a value of an area ratio occupied by the sticking surface of the projections is taken as ar and a value of the height of the projections is taken as h, ar/h is 52 or more.)

 

[disaster3]

Rumored to be priced over JP¥10,000...

a what is the current price for Tenergy and Dignics in JP¥ on Japan domestic market to compare to their price?

 

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a what is the current price for Tenergy and Dignics in JP¥ on Japan domestic market to compare to their price?

Officially via Butterfly store 9790 Yen and 10780 Yen including VAT. I assume the price zeio mentioned is without VAT because Japan lists prices that way.

 

[disaster3]

ok, so it seems it might be on the level of Dignics. I did not expect it will be the price level of Tenergy But it will be acceptable if it will not be higher than Dignics

 

[Robin0910]

Why’s the price difference so much higher between Tenergy and Dignics in Europe compared to Japan and China?

 

[zeio]

It's not specified but the rumored price should be before tax.

https://www.butterfly.shop/category/IN/
Dignics JP¥9800 + 10% tax (10780)
Tenergy JP¥8900 + 10% tax (9790)

 

[Robin0910]

It's not specified but the rumored price should be before tax.

https://www.butterfly.shop/category/IN/
Dignics JP¥9800 + 10% tax (10780)
Tenergy JP¥8900 + 10% tax (9790)

I meant the difference between the two rubbers in each region. Paying 1000 extra yen for dignics over tendergy would be no brainer for most but the difference is about 20 euros in Europe. +10% vs + 33%

 

[zeio]

Why’s the price difference so much higher between Tenergy and Dignics in Europe compared to Japan and China?

To pay Boll?

 

[zeio]

Butterfly officially announced on 5/19 the change in the notations of sponge thickness (the change had already been in place for the website on 2024/12/2 and in the 2025 Spring catalog), namely changing MAX to 2.3 (with a tolerance range between 2.1~2.4mm) and in numbers only (no more Japanese e.g. トクアツ, アツ, 中, ウス etc. that confuse machine translation) . Before, MAX used to mean below 3.8~4.0, with the topsheet included.

Could be in preparation for the release.

【再掲】ラバーのスポンジ厚の表記変更のお知らせ
https://www.butterfly.co.jp/news/detail/20250519.html

Rumored to be priced over JP¥10,000...

 

[andzejgolot]

Kanak Jha used new rubber and loose. IT means the rubber is wack

 

[PoppaChubby]

Zeed, what a name... it's like they've put some zing in weed, I want what they smoke at BTY HQ ....

 

[PoppaChubby]

Kanak Jha used new rubber and loose. IT means the rubber is wack

Don't try me there

 

[Egon]

Kanak Jha used new rubber and loose. IT means the rubber is wack

This is not always the case. Firstly, what did not suit Kanak may make someone else a champion. Secondly, professionals need more time to adapt.

 

[PoppaChubby]

This is not always the case. Firstly, what did not suit Kanak may make someone else a champion. Secondly, professionals need more time to adapt.

The thing with Kanak is that he's been out of competition for a while, did he stay in Ochsenhausen Liebherr Camp to train properly ? not sure. We all know the USA's environment is not that good for Top 50 WR pro training. Was he still being paid by Ochsenhausen ? there are too much question to answer aside of getting used to a new rubber. To me he has lost a lot in his doping ban. The first time he faced one of the Bros he never played against before, it's been brutal

EDIT: he plays for Borussia since November 2024, ok.

 

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The thing with Kanak is that he's been out of competition for a while, did he stay in Ochsenhausen Liebherr Camp to train properly ? not sure. We all know the USA's environment is not that good for Top 50 WR pro training. Was he still being paid by Ochsenhausen ? there are too much question to answer aside of getting used to a new rubber. To me he has lost a lot in his doping ban. The first time he faced one of the Bros he never played against before, it's been brutal

EDIT: he plays for Borussia since November 2024, ok.

He is playing for Düsseldorf starting next season.

 

[PoppaChubby]

He is playing for Düsseldorf starting next season.

Ok thanks, so he's been ... in the US for his ban's duration ?

 

[backspacer]

Ok thanks, so he's been ... in the US for his ban's duration ?

He moved to Germany when he was young. I assume he stayed here during his ban.

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

I want Zeed 25! Here BTY... take my money already!

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I want Zeed 25! Here BTY... take my money already!

go back to the D09C thread lol