Stop dreaming and start playing - rubbers for improvement ?

[davidzhang]

Hi everyone,

Long time I did not post anything here, a little background of me : played some TT in a small Chinese club when I was 13/14, no experience in competitions, did many multi-balls with private coach.
Never went to a club in Europe (currently living in France), I played sometimes with friends but nothing serious.
Now, I'm playing in a club at the age of 30 (never too late I guess) and I want to play competitive TT seriously.
I used to play with an old Viscaria and H3 provincial forehand and Tenergy 05 backhand : obviously this setup is a big mistake, just wanted to copy all the Chinese stars setups, too fast, not the best feeling for learning and improving. Of couse I can hit really good forehands and backhands with a robot or a person feeding me easy balls but in matchs situations it's more complicated.

Now I am playing with Butterfly Innerforce ALC, it is slower with more feeling/control and I feel like I can keep this blade for a long moment and improve a lot.
Rubbers I tried : H3 on FH and BH -> a lot of spin, control and speed good BUT you need to in be shape and have a good positioning on each ball. It is not forgiving, you have to care a lot about opponent's effects so it can be very frustrating for me. Solution ? keep this setup and work very hard on my physical condition/skills and try to master it.
I also played for one month with a HL5 of a friend with Mantra H/M 2.1mm on FH and BH, I feel like I play better with EUR/JAP rubbers but Mantra H 2.1 is too fast, Mantra M is better on FH for me.
I am considering using Mantra M 2.1 (or maybe thinner?) on forehand on my Innerforce ALC (it is slower than HL5, so it should be even more controllable) and for my backhand I don't know. I tried Rozena on my backhand, I did not like it.

Is someone using Innerforce ALC and has rubbers recommendations for me ?

The rubbers that I would like to try : Andro Rasanters series (with energy-cell), Nittaku Fastarc and Stiga DNA Pro series. I just don't know which one to try (hardness/thickness I should use?).

Thanks for help

 

[lodro]

Hi everyone,

Long time I did not post anything here, a little background of me : played some TT in a small Chinese club when I was 13/14, no experience in competitions, did many multi-balls with private coach.
Never went to a club in Europe (currently living in France), I played sometimes with friends but nothing serious.
Now, I'm playing in a club at the age of 30 (never too late I guess) and I want to play competitive TT seriously.
I used to play with an old Viscaria and H3 provincial forehand and Tenergy 05 backhand : obviously this setup is a big mistake, just wanted to copy all the Chinese stars setups, too fast, not the best feeling for learning and improving. Of couse I can hit really good forehands and backhands with a robot or a person feeding me easy balls but in matchs situations it's more complicated.

Now I am playing with Butterfly Innerforce ALC, it is slower with more feeling/control and I feel like I can keep this blade for a long moment and improve a lot.
Rubbers I tried : H3 on FH and BH -> a lot of spin, control and speed good BUT you need to in be shape and have a good positioning on each ball. It is not forgiving, you have to care a lot about opponent's effects so it can be very frustrating for me. Solution ? keep this setup and work very hard on my physical condition/skills and try to master it.
I also played for one month with a HL5 of a friend with Mantra H/M 2.1mm on FH and BH, I feel like I play better with EUR/JAP rubbers but Mantra H 2.1 is too fast, Mantra M is better on FH for me.
I am considering using Mantra M 2.1 (or maybe thinner?) on forehand on my Innerforce ALC (it is slower than HL5, so it should be even more controllable) and for my backhand I don't know. I tried Rozena on my backhand, I did not like it.

Is someone using Innerforce ALC and has rubbers recommendations for me ?

The rubbers that I would like to try : Andro Rasanters series (with energy-cell), Nittaku Fastarc and Stiga DNA Pro series. I just don't know which one to try (hardness/thickness I should use?).

Thanks for help

it is a cheap way to try out if it works for you or not : Try Loki RXTON 5 on both FH and BH. I use them with
1 layer of Seamoon, standard version.

 

[SofaChamp]

I recommend Fastarc G or C1 to anyone looking for a forgiving but offensive rubber that is controllable.

 

[SFF_lib]

Hi everyone,

Long time I did not post anything here, a little background of me : played some TT in a small Chinese club when I was 13/14, no experience in competitions, did many multi-balls with private coach.
Never went to a club in Europe (currently living in France), I played sometimes with friends but nothing serious.
Now, I'm playing in a club at the age of 30 (never too late I guess) and I want to play competitive TT seriously.
I used to play with an old Viscaria and H3 provincial forehand and Tenergy 05 backhand : obviously this setup is a big mistake, just wanted to copy all the Chinese stars setups, too fast, not the best feeling for learning and improving. Of couse I can hit really good forehands and backhands with a robot or a person feeding me easy balls but in matchs situations it's more complicated.

Now I am playing with Butterfly Innerforce ALC, it is slower with more feeling/control and I feel like I can keep this blade for a long moment and improve a lot.
Rubbers I tried : H3 on FH and BH -> a lot of spin, control and speed good BUT you need to in be shape and have a good positioning on each ball. It is not forgiving, you have to care a lot about opponent's effects so it can be very frustrating for me. Solution ? keep this setup and work very hard on my physical condition/skills and try to master it.
I also played for one month with a HL5 of a friend with Mantra H/M 2.1mm on FH and BH, I feel like I play better with EUR/JAP rubbers but Mantra H 2.1 is too fast, Mantra M is better on FH for me.
I am considering using Mantra M 2.1 (or maybe thinner?) on forehand on my Innerforce ALC (it is slower than HL5, so it should be even more controllable) and for my backhand I don't know. I tried Rozena on my backhand, I did not like it.

Is someone using Innerforce ALC and has rubbers recommendations for me ?

The rubbers that I would like to try : Andro Rasanters series (with energy-cell), Nittaku Fastarc and Stiga DNA Pro series. I just don't know which one to try (hardness/thickness I should use?).

Thanks for help

If you like Euro/Jap rubbers that aren’t too fast but still have a high performance, D09C will be your first choice if you can afford it. In short game and block its control is pretty decent, but still less than H3.

R53 has a thin soft topsheet giving you very nice control and feedback.

I have played these two rubbers and high recommend them. Both can create massive spin without too much effort.

 

[Kolev]

Recently I paid serious attention to H3 Neo prov OS(slightly boosted) and I really like its control and spin variation. Even when I am out of position to attack with full power I can still keep the ball on the table with a good placement and deceptive spin, but even the best CNT guys don't always hit the ball with a full throttle-sometimes they just block, push or just put the ball wherever they can with a medium pace
I played a few times with a friend's IF ALC/PK50/RZ and really liked it, but I suspect I would like it even more with the H3N Pro. If you dont want a tacky one, the G1 looks like an excellent option You can't go wrong with R48 or Rakza X as well....just to mention a few

 

[CLV]

My middle of the rozd rubber to go to is Fastarc G1. Played it on FH BH. And is super reliable.

If you like a bit more tack try rakza Z

 

[yoass]

I absolutely love G1, but middle of the road… sounds like Nikki Lauda’s perspective on Magnum PI’s Ferrari to me.

 

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[Zeen]

Definitely Fastarc c-1. if you ever need more speed and your technique is good enough, you can go g-1 or t05.

 

[CLV]

I absolutely love G1, but middle of the road… sounds like Nikki Lauda’s perspective on Magnum PI’s Ferrari to me.

I just mean its a very good allround rubber. You can play good offense it´s not so sensitive to incomming spin and it´s z decent pushing and blocking rubber

 

[davidzhang]

Thanks for your replies! What about the thickness of these rubbers ? Should I go for the max version or lower such as 2.0mm or lower ?

 

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lodro;364578

ini adalah cara yang murah untuk dicoba apakah berhasil untuk Anda atau tidak : Coba Loki RXTON 5 di FH dan BH. Saya menggunakannya dengan
1 lapisan Seamoon, versi standar.

How long does Loki V rubber last?

 

[Lula]

I think that the hurricanes could be good for your developement if you have the patience. Slow and need to make your own power with the body and if they are hard then you need to move alot as well. Then if you decide to use european rubbers you will find it easier.