The difference between TMB T5000 & ZJK/Lin SP ZLC

[Love_TT]

Please forgive me, I wrote this question a bit funny. I have played before:

1. boll/vis alc (I find it very spinny, accurate, moderate hardness, but a bit lacking in power when moving back)
2. vis super alc (I feel it is hard but not much more bouncy than the alc series)
3. T5000 (sardius + 2 soft surfaces). Control is not too difficult, good ball feel, good speed, especially blocking the ball in a passive state is very good, not affected by too much spin. However, the attack does not have much spin.

I find myself having a relatively good feeling for the ball, mainly because my physical strength is limited now but I am still passionate about the 2-speed style of play, so I want to switch to a bouncing racket. I know that you get what you pay for, I am a fan of Lin Yun Ju's style of play, but my finances are not enough to buy a super zlc, so I want to consult whether I should play the TMB/ZJK T5000 series or not. The combo I plan to combine is Dignics 05 2.1mm from Fh and Dignics 05 1.9mm on BH.
I hope anyone who has experienced it can give me some advice on the difference between these two lines!
I sincerely thank the forum members!

 

[Love_TT]

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[UpSideDownCarl]

I think you are just going to have to wait and see if anyone responds. Bumping the twice on the same day you opened the thread does not seem to have made you any friends.

 

[Love_TT]

I think you are just going to have to wait and see if anyone responds. Bumping the twice on the same day you opened the thread does not seem to have made you any friends.

Well i'm so sorry, but i just want to ask people's experience about 2 types of blade, but i think there's nobody in here have played t5000 series before...

 

[NextLevel]

T5000 is hard and stiff and bit difficult to control with harder outer plies. I haven't met any looper who took it over the SZLC blades when given the choice. That said, if you get lucky and find a soft feeling ZJK T5000, it might work for you. Especially since Butterfly rubbers are high quality and the Dignics series have a bit more dwell to combat the quick release of T5000. I do prefer Hinoki in my T5000 and would take the Sardius or the Primorac Carbon over the Boll or ZJK. But I am not you.

@Takkyu_wa_inochi plays with thr ZJK T5000. I tried the Boll T5000 but couldn't stick with it, for a pure Carbon blade, I prefer the Cybershape or Stiga Inspira.

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

Yes I’m playing with ZJK Tamca5000 with Dignics but I’m not an EJ so cannot compare a lot with other stuff.

All I can say it’s a very good blade and a very fast racket. No need to big swings even far from the table, with a short stroke it’s ridiculous how you can control the ball and make lighting fast counter attacks. But the blocking or short game is very good too !

NB I’m a confirmed player and train a lot. I wouldn’t recommend this to a beginner or someone still learning basics.

 

[Love_TT]

Hello everyone, after some time debating, I finally decided to go for the Lin Yun-Ju Super ZLC.
For the forehand, I paired it with 729 Battle 2 blue sponge (I think it’s the provincial version, but honestly I don’t really care much, since the price difference compared to the commercial orange sponge isn’t big, and it’s quite easy to play with).
The forehand feels fantastic — looping, topspin, and counter topspin are all very solid. Although it doesn’t have the same “strange” kick as when paired with an ALC blade, the stability is excellent.
For the backhand, I’m using Dignics 05 2.1mm. It feels a bit too bouncy, and the arc is pretty high, so I often have to press down on the ball more, otherwise it tends to fly long. Backhand blocking/defense is also a bit tricky because of the high bounce. In the future, I think I’ll try Dignics 05 1.9mm or maybe 09c 1.9mm.

 

[chinacurious]

How do you find lifting heavy backspin on the forehand? Both ZLC blades and Battle 2 are said to have low throw angle which in theory would make it harder.

 

[Love_TT]

How do you find lifting heavy backspin on the forehand? Both ZLC blades and Battle 2 are said to have low throw angle which in theory would make it harder.

I usually use two techniques:

1. Against heavy underspin that is slow and without much speed – I go for a brushing topspin, lowering my right leg and pulling straight up from the ground, contacting the ball at its highest point. In this stroke, I don’t use much waist rotation, it’s mainly forearm action.
2. Against a fast heavy underspin – I take the ball earlier, right after the bounce. I still contact behind the ball, but this time I use much more waist rotation, while also dropping my right leg to generate power.

I can make a demo video for you tomorrow if you’d like. Of course, it also depends on the quality of the opponent’s push — if their level is higher than mine, then whatever they do will naturally make things more difficult for me.

 

[chinacurious]

Thanks for the answer. I'm more curious though about a comparison between your new setup and the old one (Boll ALC with D05) than a general explanation of how to lift underspin.

 

[Love_TT]

Thanks for the answer. I'm more curious though about a comparison between your new setup and the old one (Boll ALC with D05) than a general explanation of how to lift underspin.

When it comes to heavy underspin to the right, after nearly 10 years of playing I’ve found that this is a weakness for many amateur players (not counting those who’ve had proper training, of course). My advice is to go for a slow topspin instead of trying to use force to finish the point outright.

 

[chinacurious]

So you don't have to change your technique between the 2 blades?

 

[Love_TT]

So you don't have to change your technique between the 2 blades?

There is a slight change, but it is not very obvious. I mainly change the angle of the racket to adapt to the throw

 

[zbys]

Please forgive me, I wrote this question a bit funny. I have played before:

1. boll/vis alc (I find it very spinny, accurate, moderate hardness, but a bit lacking in power when moving back)
2. vis super alc (I feel it is hard but not much more bouncy than the alc series)
3. T5000 (sardius + 2 soft surfaces). Control is not too difficult, good ball feel, good speed, especially blocking the ball in a passive state is very good, not affected by too much spin. However, the attack does not have much spin.

I find myself having a relatively good feeling for the ball, mainly because my physical strength is limited now but I am still passionate about the 2-speed style of play, so I want to switch to a bouncing racket. I know that you get what you pay for, I am a fan of Lin Yun Ju's style of play, but my finances are not enough to buy a super zlc, so I want to consult whether I should play the TMB/ZJK T5000 series or not. The combo I plan to combine is Dignics 05 2.1mm from Fh and Dignics 05 1.9mm on BH.
I hope anyone who has experienced it can give me some advice on the difference between these two lines!
I sincerely thank the forum members!

l play with Lin yum ju lemuria super zlc its a butterfly clone for 40 pounds not 350 pounds the super zlc is high quality japan gold imported from japan prefer it to the boll zlc or alc from aliexpress in china no tax and free postage same colour handle but no markings on handle l use tenergy 05 l bought 2 good and so cheap !

 

[Love_TT]

l play with Lin yum ju lemuria super zlc its a butterfly clone for 40 pounds not 350 pounds the super zlc is high quality japan gold imported from japan prefer it to the boll zlc or alc from aliexpress in china no tax and free postage same colour handle but no markings on handle l use tenergy 05 l bought 2 good and so cheap !

Yeah, in my area some guys have also tried out blades from the Lemuria series, etc. Some of my friends even import rectangular-shaped blanks and use CNC machines to make their own custom blades. According to their feedback, the quality is really good for the price.

As for me personally, I still prefer genuine brand blades, mainly because they’re easier to resell if I want to switch and try a different setup.