The usual Backhand rubber - Something faster than C1??

[W3R]

Hello ~ This backhand rubber discussion is endless I guess, but I would like to ask something very specific and narrow down some good options.

I would like to find a rubber that is slightly faster than C1, maybe a bit more catapult effect, with relatively high arc but not harder than ~ 47.5

Something that has good grip to start looping the back spin push (I loop everything that goes out of the table, not flick, just loop) but then something that has enough power for the follow up shot - C1 seems too slow / soft now to finish the point. I have to say that I tried G1 and Vega pro and didn't like them although I like both on FH.. G1 is too linear and somehow hardish and VP seemed also bit hard and not so grippy (although it was heavily used, but I think I got the feel)

After hours of reading and searching I found these
Joola Tronix ACC
Omega 7 - 8 Euro
Vega X
Rakza Z (too slow?)
Goldarc 8
Tenergy 05 (prob much faster than the rest??)

**The key is to be faster than C1 with a high arc.. otherwise C1 is pretty good

If someone has good info about this I would love to hear it. Thanks!

 

[golden_son]

I play with Omega 8 Euro right now. It's a good backhand rubber. It has perhaps more catapult than C1, but less than Tenergy/Rozena. Feels harder than Rozena despite being essentially the same sponge hardness. It feels very similar to Andro Rasanter R45.

• Rakza Z is harder than your preferred 47.5° and has basically no catapult. I'd rule that out based on your stated criteria.
• Goldarc 8 (the 47.5° version) is very similar to G1 in my experience.
• Tenergy 05 has way more catapult and top-end speed than the others. It has excellent grip and spin generation, but much less inherent control.

I don't have experience with the Joola or Vega X, but if Vega Pro wasn't a good fit I'd expect Vega X isn't, either.

Another one to consider that I think meets all your criteria is Rakza 7. It's 47.5° but doesn't have the hard topsheet that G1 does; it has similar or a bit more catapult than C1; it's very grippy; and the arc is medium to medium-high. It's also reasonably-priced. I'd start there and if you find yourself wanting more easy speed, try Rasanter R45 or Omega 8 Euro.

 

[WingTT]

Hello ~ This backhand rubber discussion is endless I guess, but I would like to ask something very specific and narrow down some good options.

I would like to find a rubber that is slightly faster than C1, maybe a bit more catapult effect, with relatively high arc but not harder than ~ 47.5 ...

If someone has good info about this I would love to hear it. Thanks!

This is the first time I hear someone reject a rubber because it is too linear. The G1 is about as close to your theoretical requirements as anything out there and it is officially a medium hard 47.5 degree ESN rubber and is it a sibling to the C1 rubber. Go ahead and try out the Tenergy 05 if someone in your club has it. I suspect you will find a more satisfaction if you tried the G1 on your backhand with a different blade, something with a softer top veneer and more forgiving flexibility. Have you considered going with an inner ALC blade with a limba top and a larger head size? Maybe a rare and wonderful Hinoki blade will be the thing that will make your backhand feel just right.

 

[Zezima]

What you are looking for makes no sense.

You say c1 is slow and you want something faster which is G1 but that rubber is too hard for you?

Well guess what if you want something faster than you have to go harder rubbers. And G1 would be the next step and not a t05 and whatever else you suggested.

Either work on your technique or get accustomed to a harder rubber.. best do both..

 

[P1ngP0ng3r]

Or perhaps give the new Nittaku Blastac a try. According to Nittaku, it sits in between C1 and G1.

 

[Tyce]

Rakza 7 suits everything you're asking for. It feels softer than G1 because it has a softer topsheet and overall is just slightly less of everything, but more pop than C1.

Glayzer could be another option

 

[steve888]

The other rubber you can try is Rozena, more controllable and safer than Tenergy 05.

I know one person uses Tenergy 19 for their backhand. C1 to me has plenty of pop, I tend to not like to much catapult, and tend to use something like D09c or G09c - as less spin sensitive and is great for pushes etc.

 

[Table10Ice]

Right now I use Tronix ACC on two blades. For the last year and a half, my go to BH rubber was Xiom Vega Korea, that I really liked and recommend! Relatively cheap also, if you care about that. Downside is that it only comes with max sponge, at least in the EU, so might be heavy and most players seem to prefer thinner sponge on their BH for the control.

I like ACC, but it's faster than Korea, alot faster. Still recommended though!

 

[W3R]

Thanks so much for the valid replies! - I think I will get any of these three that I will find on Sale to try - Rakza 7, Omega 7/8 Euro, Tronix ACC - these three seem to be very good options!

 

[Scarfed Garchomp]

I agree with R7, I think it is very close to a "faster C1" even though technically G1 is the harder version of C1. I am also using Tronix ACC on bh right now and think it is a great rubber though R7 is a bit steadier less bouncy than the ACC

 

[steve888]

Interesting people find Razka 7 faster than c1, I found it slower than c1. C1 felt more catapult and R7 was more linear.

 

[W3R]

I agree with R7, I think it is very close to a "faster C1" even though technically G1 is the harder version of C1. I am also using Tronix ACC on bh right now and think it is a great rubber though R7 is a bit steadier less bouncy than the ACC

Thanks!! Can I ask if you use 2.0 or max? Do you think 2.0 would be sufficient or go with max? I mean for Tronix ACC ~

 

[Scarfed Garchomp]

Thanks!! Can I ask if you use 2.0 or max? Do you think 2.0 would be sufficient or go with max? I mean for Tronix ACC ~

I generally don't use 2.0 rubbers unless they are only available with 2.0. I think 2.0 ACC would be fine because it is a decently fast rubber already, and the grip is pretty good. But I will always choose max

 

[Scarfed Garchomp]

Interesting people find Razka 7 faster than c1, I found it slower than c1. C1 felt more catapult and R7 was more linear.

I agree with that C1 is bouncier than R7, but hitting into both of them with more force I felt R7 provided more support where it felt C1 (especially since C1 is only available up to 2.0 and R7 is available in max) kind of plateaued a bit for me

 

[W3R]

I generally don't use 2.0 rubbers unless they are only available with 2.0. I think 2.0 ACC would be fine because it is a decently fast rubber already, and the grip is pretty good. But I will always choose max

Yeah, fk it, let's go all in! It's actually on sale so I think I'll go for it, otherwise I would go R7. Thx

 

[steve888]

I agree with that C1 is bouncier than R7, but hitting into both of them with more force I felt R7 provided more support where it felt C1 (especially since C1 is only available up to 2.0 and R7 is available in max) kind of plateaued a bit for me

I see what you mean, R7 has a lot of control and is very safe. I tried Razka x that was a bit faster but lower throw.
C1 can bottom out a bit on very hard hits as its soft. I found Rozena not as spinny but didn't bottom out as much as C1.

 

[Tyce]

Let us know how you get on, I think this particular area of BH rubbers is pretty useful to a lot of people

 

[TTPlayer01]

I recently switched to Stiga DNA Hybrid M, 47,5 degrees and I find it really easy to play with. You might want to read into that one. It is quite fast and even tho it is 47,5 degrees the topsheet is very soft so it does not feel so hard at all

 

[golden_son]

Let us know how you get on, I think this particular area of BH rubbers is pretty useful to a lot of people

There's new rubbers in this range from different makers, too, that I'm curious about. Xiom's Vega O line, Andro's Vertic. I think Victas has a new 45° option as well.

 

[W3R]

Let us know how you get on, I think this particular area of BH rubbers is pretty useful to a lot of people

Will do!