Viscaria bh rubber

[sawbz]

i had the fzd alc with a g1 bh but give that blade away since i didnt like the feel and got a viscaria instead. now i find g1 too slow on my bh for a quick wrist shot. would xiom omega 7 pro solve this issue if i heavily depend on picking up serves with flicks? dont wanna spend money on something like dignics 80 for now

 

[Julzig]

How about Omega 8 pro?
Grip is supposedly better than O7, and faster than G1 aswell

 

[SFF_lib]

i had the fzd alc with a g1 bh but give that blade away since i didnt like the feel and got a viscaria instead. now i find g1 too slow on my bh for a quick wrist shot. would xiom omega 7 pro solve this issue if i heavily depend on picking up serves with flicks? dont wanna spend money on something like dignics 80 for now

Vis has faster bh than fzd alc anyway. Even if you slap a g1 on Vis you will find it speedier.

Another option is H8-20.

Chen Meng used H8-20 on BH before. Same price as Omega rubber but much better short game, control and spin

 

[Tyce]

Well it's missing context ofc.
If the Vis is light and the Fzd was heavy, there can be a lot of difference in intrinsic speed.

The more flexible blade of the two could be helpful in a quick flick

But also, just getting used to the different balance will sharpen up your timing and eventually get you shots that are just as powerful. It's pretty logical that you have mini timing issues right now because you are using something else.

 

[sawbz]

Well it's missing context ofc.
If the Vis is light and the Fzd was heavy, there can be a lot of difference in intrinsic speed.

The more flexible blade of the two could be helpful in a quick flick

But also, just getting used to the different balance will sharpen up your timing and eventually get you shots that are just as powerful. It's pretty logical that you have mini timing issues right now because you are using something else.

yeah i was thinking the same it does feel lighter and no vis seems more controlled than the fzd alc so a grippy rubber like g1 was really messing with my blocking and chiquita. anyone here who has tried the dignics 05 and 80 what are the differenes? im really looking forward to getting 80 on my bh after a few months but will 05 be enough to pull up on heavy underspins?

 

[joshmak10]

09c

 

[sawbz]

09c

isn't that even slower and requires more effort to activate or at least that's what i felt when i tried it? btw how's the nuzn 55 u using?

 

[joshmak10]

isn't that even slower and requires more effort to activate or at least that's what i felt when i tried it? btw how's the nuzn 55 u using?

Yes but imo that really helped me develop my backhand a lot, so much so that I turned from a FH dominate player to BH dominant and now I need to train my FH again cuz it’s shit.

Nuzn 55 is great for me on my BH. Feels like a perfect balance of 09c and D05. Great topspins and blocks, good short game control, good spin and speed. Still getting used to Nuzn on my FH tho because I’m transitioning from H3 but hopefully I’ll adapt well enough soon

 

[sawbz]

Yes but imo that really helped me develop my backhand a lot, so much so that I turned from a FH dominate player to BH dominant and now I need to train my FH again cuz it’s shit.

Nuzn 55 is great for me on my BH. Feels like a perfect balance of 09c and D05. Great topspins and blocks, good short game control, good spin and speed. Still getting used to Nuzn on my FH tho because I’m transitioning from H3 but hopefully I’ll adapt wel

yeah 09c is great but i think i need some pop without losing grip. ever had the chance to compare dig 05 to 80?

 

[biaxialerzug]

What's your level (TTR for example)? Maybe Rozena? Worked very well when I tried Rozena on Boll ALC

 

[NetProphet]

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yeah 09c is great but i think i need some pop without losing grip.

09c isn't a step down in grip. It's grippy!

now i find g1 too slow on my bh for a quick wrist shot.

G1 is not a slow rubber but for BH it can be challenging to get full speed from it. So I would recommend to stay away from all Dignics sponge on BH, same issue.
Try Tenergy if you want outright speed, either 05 or 19.

yeah i was thinking the same it does feel lighter and no vis seems more controlled than the fzd alc so a grippy rubber like g1 was really messing with my blocking and chiquita.

What way are your blocks different?
And what way was it messing with your Chiquita?
You said earlier that it was too slow. Are you talking about speed again here? Or something else?

anyone here who has tried the dignics 05 and 80 what are the differenes? im really looking forward to getting 80 on my bh after a few months

If you can't get enough speed with G1 now then D05 will likely be worse because it needs immense power to create it's speed and that's difficult for most ppl on BH.

but will 05 be enough to pull up on heavy underspins?

D05 could lift the titanic, it's not a question of the rubber but technique here.
Again, if you just want speed over G1 I reckon one of the Tenergy rubbers is your best bet.

 

[Brs]

t05 was good enough for zjk BH on Viscaria. but maybe you need smth better?

 

[joshmak10]

yeah 09c is great but i think i need some pop without losing grip. ever had the chance to compare dig 05 to 80?

Yeah I’ve used Dig 05 and Dig 80. Dig 80 is good for low intermediates, good speed, not spin sensitive at all, great blocks, ok short game, but very mediocre spin imo and a flat arc. D05 is much better with spin and a higher angle but needs good technique to activate it or else u will get nothing. Blocks with 05 are good as well and the top end speed of 05 is higher than 80. Both have more “pop” than 09c but have much less spin.

 

[sawbz]

t05 was good enough for zjk BH on Viscaria. but maybe you need smth better?

yeah mate just like you ain't never gonna play like zjk i ain't gonna too so we better keep the conversation to your calibre and not compare ourselves to the chinese

 

[sawbz]

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09c isn't a step down in grip. It's grippy!

G1 is not a slow rubber but for BH it can be challenging to get full speed from it. So I would recommend to stay away from all Dignics sponge on BH, same issue.
Try Tenergy if you want outright speed, either 05 or 19.

What way are your blocks different?
And what way was it messing with your Chiquita?
You said earlier that it was too slow. Are you talking about speed again here? Or something else?

If you can't get enough speed with G1 now then D05 will likely be worse because it needs immense power to create it's speed and that's difficult for most ppl on BH.

D05 could lift the titanic, it's not a question of the rubber but technique here.
Again, if you just want speed over G1 I reckon one of the Tenergy rubbers is your best bet.

blocks were going in the net i needed to push them to go further. for chiquita it was grabbing the ball too much and not throwing it all the way over the net. okay thanks

 

[NetProphet]

for chiquita it was grabbing the ball too much and not throwing it all the way over the net.

Ok. I think what you're describing here is a technique issue. That kind of grip is necessary for a good BH flip. I expect with a bit of practice you can make it work.
Similar with the blocks. G1 on Viscaria shouldnt be a recipe for net....
How long have you been using it?

 

[sawbz]

Ok. I think what you're describing here is a technique issue. That kind of grip is necessary for a good BH flip. I expect with a bit of practice you can make it work.
Similar with the blocks. G1 on Viscaria shouldnt be a recipe for net....
How long have you been using it?

a week😅

 

[NetProphet]

a week😅

Well that does explain much of it.
A new blade can take months to be fully comfortable with, or to realise that it's not for you.
I would say to stick with it rather than jumping to z new blade new rubber combo that could be even more difficult to adjust with.

 

[sawbz]

Well that does explain much of it.
A new blade can take months to be fully comfortable with, or to realise that it's not for you.
I would say to stick with it rather than jumping to z new blade new rubber combo that could be even more difficult to adjust with.

yeah i like the blade my forehand is much more consistent on this one and vis is giving more spin, p1 is working like a gem. i just need to adjust my bh

 

[FH_Project]

It is been too long that I have used G1. I didn't like rubber. Somehow I wasn't able to do good contact with the ball consistently because of thin sponge and hard topsheet. I then boosted rubber, it was good on first training, but then pretty unresponsive.

As an intermediate player who prefers 46–48° hardness rubbers on outer carbon blades, I’d go for Hybrid MK 2.0 (less spongy feeling than MAX) on the BH.

I can flip with it quite easily, even when receiving doubles serves from FH position and suddenly switching to BH. That’s a big move, and consistency gets harder with rubbers that are too hard, tacky, or overly fast. HMK is more forgiving and lets you get away with small mistakes. At my level(for me), flip is very unnecessary shot, but I try to do anyway 😅 When I watch my games, I see that I react serves just after ball passes the net, eventhough I force myself to be prepared much sooner, it doesn't work well. So easier rubber saves me from making error on playing harder shots.

HMK also generates really spinny shots, when you accelerate arm forward. On BH this feels great, because I land way more balls compared to when I used D80. With D80 you need to brush much more on hard BH strokes. If you contact the back of the ball, the arc flattens too much, and you risk clipping the net or sending it long.

I find D80 very easy block actively. Passive blocks can cause ball flying all over the place, because of the grip. So it is definitely not for a person who hasn't unlocked the active block skill yet

It is possible to do both active or passive blocks with HMK, but less dangerous. However, you can attack continuously without fear of shooting out.

Both rubbers share similar traits, but D80 is more “dangerous” — for the opponent, and also for you