Which racket setup is the best here?

[FZD999]

A)
blade: Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon
FH: Dignics 80
BH: Tenergy 19

B)
blade: Yasaka Ma Lin Soft Carbon
FH: Dignics 80
B: Tenergy 19

C)
blade: Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon
FH: Dignics 09c
BH: Dignics 09c

D)
blade: Yasaka Ma Lin Soft Carbon
FH: Dignics 09c
BH: Dignics 09c

E)
blade: Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon
FH: Dignics 09c
BH: Tenergy 19

F)
blade: Yasaka Ma Lin Soft Carbon
FH: Dignics 09c
BH: Tenergy 19


Other combinations with the same blades and rubbers listed above?

 

[Airoc]

Well, you would have to ask yourself a few questions that no-one else can answer, starting with whether you prefer the Carbon or Soft Carbon. Both are exellent in their own way, the Soft Carbon slightly more forgiving and supporting due to its softer nature.

As for the rubbers, the question would be if you want to go "Hybrid" with the d09c or stay away from it. This is so much a matter of preference that seasoned high class professionals just cannot adjust to the nature of these rubbers while some lower league players have found their ideal mix of more control over the table and still enough speed and catapult when required.

From own experience and observations I can say that tenergy 19 is a really good rubber, chosen for the backhand side by many. On the other hand, not many players below professional level "dare" use d09c on their backhand because they want something a little more lively.

All that said, "my" combination - out of the ones listed as that was requested - would be

F)
blade: Yasaka Ma Lin Soft Carbon
FH: Dignics 09c
BH: Tenergy 19

but then I do not know the d80 and have adjusted to hybrid rubbers by now.

 

[mightymouse]

I beg to differ here regarding Ma Lin Carbon vs. Ma Lin Soft Carbon.

The usual convention is that soft carbon must be more controllable. Well, in my specific case, my ML Carbon is 86 grams and my ML Soft Carbon is 93 grams.

Composition wise:
ML Carbon --> limba - anegre - carbon - ayous - carbon - anegre - limba
ML Soft Carbon --> anegre - limba - carbon - ayous - carbon - limba - anegre

Based on the above compositions, the difference should be minimal right? Let's say they use the same type of carbon.

In reality (just in my specific case here), my ML Soft Carbon is less controllable compared to my ML Carbon.

ML Carbon is a bit stiffer and has less catapult. ML Soft Carbon is a bit flexible but has large catapult. As a result, in overall play (short game, pushing, blocking, driving, hitting, not included looping) ML Soft Carbon is harder to control.

And to my amazement, the ML Carbon composition is EXACTLY the same with composition of Donic Waldner Senso Carbon. The difference is only WSC has void in the handle. WSC is a very controllable blade, and so is ML Carbon (only felt a bit stiffer and not as head heavy).

So back to the topic above, I can't say which rubbers combination to use, but if I have to choose between ML Carbon vs. ML Soft Carbon, then I will choose my ML Carbon. It is lighter, a bit stiffer (better for driving/hitting, while still excellent for looping) and it is more controllable.

When I did some research long time ago (reading lots of reviews and forums), during the early production of ML Soft Carbon, there were lots of copies of heavier weight (>100 grams). So compared to ML Carbon which are below 90 grams mostly, they are actually faster. However, in theory, should ML Carbon and ML Soft Carbon weigh the same, ML Carbon must be a bit faster and thus less controllable. In reality, it is not always the case.

 

[netdriver]

all of them

just choose one and stick to it

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

They are all trash. Put bty rubbers on bty blades like vis/boll alc and call it a day. Use a proven setup not some wacky setup like this. Ma lin retired years ago, his blades not design for the plastic ball.

blade: vis/boll alc
FH: Dignics 09c
BH: Tenergy 19

Just follow the Scrubbies clan-master's advise. This advise, when followed to the letter will guarantee you to 2200 USTTA level.
NB: Guarantee with T&C ( individual milage may differ )

 

[Spartan-727]

I'll add that the ma lin carbon was not good when I had it. I found it very difficult as the racket is quite stiff, fast, and inconsistent on hits.

If you must go either of these then pick the soft carbon but I'd suggest going with something standard like suggested above. Like viscaria.

 

[Airoc]

However, in theory, should ML Carbon and ML Soft Carbon weigh the same, ML Carbon must be a bit faster and thus less controllable.

Yes, that is what any theoretical advice has to be based on.

But your insight on frequent actual weights should alert any potential buyer.

 

[GregorTT425]

I would say D. That setup I would be comfortable with.

 

[WingTT]

@OP, why are you asking this question? Don't you already have the top tier FZD ALC, H3 Nat Blue, D05 setup? Maybe you need to boost your H3?

 

[TensorBackhand]

A)
blade: Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon
FH: Dignics 80
BH: Tenergy 19

B)
blade: Yasaka Ma Lin Soft Carbon
FH: Dignics 80
B: Tenergy 19

C)
blade: Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon
FH: Dignics 09c
BH: Dignics 09c

D)
blade: Yasaka Ma Lin Soft Carbon
FH: Dignics 09c
BH: Dignics 09c

E)
blade: Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon
FH: Dignics 09c
BH: Tenergy 19

F)
blade: Yasaka Ma Lin Soft Carbon
FH: Dignics 09c
BH: Tenergy 19


Other combinations with the same blades and rubbers listed above?

E is best

 

[Loop Lob Smash]

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

A)
blade: Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon
FH: Dignics 80
BH: Tenergy 19

B)
blade: Yasaka Ma Lin Soft Carbon
FH: Dignics 80
B: Tenergy 19

C)
blade: Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon
FH: Dignics 09c
BH: Dignics 09c

D)
blade: Yasaka Ma Lin Soft Carbon
FH: Dignics 09c
BH: Dignics 09c

E)
blade: Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon
FH: Dignics 09c
BH: Tenergy 19

F)
blade: Yasaka Ma Lin Soft Carbon
FH: Dignics 09c
BH: Tenergy 19


Other combinations with the same blades and rubbers listed above?

This is a classic case of hair-splitting.

 

[zeio]

They are all trash. Put bty rubbers on bty blades like vis/boll alc and call it a day. Use a proven setup not some wacky setup like this. Ma lin retired years ago, his blades not design for the plastic ball.

blade: vis/boll alc
FH: Dignics 09c
BH: Tenergy 19

Ahem, Viscaria was first released in 1993 and TB ALC in 2008, whereas cellulose (di)acetate ball (superseded by ABS in 2017) and ABS ball (first by Nittaku then adopted by DHS and DFish) were first released in 2014.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

G) Ma Lin Carbon + D09C + D09C

 

[NetProphet]

A)
blade: Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon
FH: Dignics 80
BH: Tenergy 19

B)
blade: Yasaka Ma Lin Soft Carbon
FH: Dignics 80
B: Tenergy 19

C)
blade: Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon
FH: Dignics 09c
BH: Dignics 09c

D)
blade: Yasaka Ma Lin Soft Carbon
FH: Dignics 09c
BH: Dignics 09c

E)
blade: Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon
FH: Dignics 09c
BH: Tenergy 19

F)
blade: Yasaka Ma Lin Soft Carbon
FH: Dignics 09c
BH: Tenergy 19


Other combinations with the same blades and rubbers listed above?

Without knowing anything about you it is impossible for anyone to give good advice on this.
How did you arrive at this shortlist?
Are you any good at TT? As in will you actually be able to use D09c on FH and BH?
What's your level and how do you play?
Why are you ditching your FZD ALC?

These are expensive advanced setups ideally suited to people who can already play. Taking advice on them from absolute strangers in here is a sure way to make the wrong choice.
I don't mind giving advice to beginners who really need help on relatively inexpensive setups (R7 or XSoft when you're learning, does it really matter?) but honestly, before shelling out this money you need to try as many of the rubbers as you can and ignore pretty much every opinion except your own and those watching/helping you play.
Especially ignore scrubplayer who hasn't a clue what he's talking about! 😂

 

[Ash0210]

D followed by E

 

[FZD999]

G) Ma Lin Carbon + D09C + D09C

Isn’t that the same as C?

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Isn’t that the same as C?

yes, but maybe no