Yinhe Jupiter 3 Amazing Rubber

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I feel the spin is less than Dragon Grip, the curve it makes when counter looping middle table is flatter.

How is it creating its own spin against a slow underspin ball? I feel with the C-touch German rubbers like the Dragon Grip, Bluegrip C2, Victas V20 etc the biggest issue is spin creation by own power. Once the opponent has made an opening loop these C-touch rubbers are fantastic at countering.
With the German rubbers I had more success with just ignoring the underspin and fast attacking instead of making spinny loops.

 
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How is it creating its own spin against a slow underspin ball? I feel with the C-touch German rubbers like the Dragon Grip, Bluegrip C2, Victas V20 etc the biggest issue is spin creation by own power. Once the opponent has made an opening loop these C-touch rubbers are fantastic at countering.
With the German rubbers I had more success with just ignoring the underspin and fast attacking instead of making spinny loops.

The J3 is more elastic so it lifts backspin easier while harder sponges need some force from you body. It's suit for playing close to table, good looping and somewhat good flat hit. But in serious matches and difficult balls the Dragon Gip is more deadly. And of course we must also take their price ranges in consideration

 
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I just want to highlight this Yinhe Jupiter 3 rubber. It's not a rubber that I see get talked about much, but its honestly a really remarkable and great rubber. I recently started using it on my FH in 39 degree, and I'm playing much better with it. It is very much like a hybrid rubber, with a tacky topsheet (tackier than ESN hybrids), and a bouncy fast sponge. I compared it with a Bluegrip C2, and I felt the speed was very similar but the Jupiter had more spin and power. Jupiter also seemed to have a higher arc. The rubber doesn't need to be boosted at all, its naturally very bouncy.

This is a very powerful rubber with very fast basic drive speed as well. It's very different from H3, as it doesn't quite get the same level of spin. It doesn't have the feeling of holding the ball on the rubber and getting unlimited amounts of spin the way H3 does. But the loop is very deadly, as the combination of speed and spin can really overwhelm the opponent. Opening loops feel quite effortless and natural. The good arc combined with the inherent bounciness makes opening loops easy. Also, I never knew I was so good at flicking until I switched to this rubber. I can flick very consistently and easily with this rubber. The bounciness and lack of spin sensitivity seems to make it good at flicks and also blocks.

The area where the Jupiter 3 is less ideal is serve and short game. Compared to H3, its just much more bouncy. At times my serve can go long or high, and same with pushes. I'm sure over time you can get used to it, but its just one natural consequence of having a bouncy sponge.

I'm so impressed by this rubber that next time I want to try it in 41 degree sponge. Hopefully its even more powerful, and also 41 degree sponge probably leaves some margin for boosting down to 40 or 39 hardness.

l bought jupiter 3 in 38 deg from AliExpress one thing no one mentioned yet , is that it came with a layer of glue on the sponge its sticky l peeled it off easily in one piece its quite heavy and thick for a glue .since l am putting many more layers on . l am boosting it with my normal falco booster 3 layers then my normal glue which is a solvent glue not water based . never used a made in china rubber before and they a long history of hard slow sponge .so trying to soften it up . impressed by the packaging it came with many protective sheets all for 12 pounds only ..

 
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I had a chance to test and compare the 39d J3 against the Tibhar K3 today. I think functionally these 2 rubbers are very similar as hybrid rubbers. The J3 is slightly bouncier, the K3 feels slightly deader. I think the K3 has a higher throw angle.

But overall both rubbers are very easily to use and very responsive. Both are excellent at lifting underspin.
 
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I had a chance to test and compare the 39d J3 against the Tibhar K3 today. I think functionally these 2 rubbers are very similar as hybrid rubbers. The J3 is slightly bouncier, the K3 feels slightly deader. I think the K3 has a higher throw angle.

But overall both rubbers are very easily to use and very responsive. Both are excellent at lifting underspin.

The J3 has very lively sponge, I wonder how long it will last before becoming mushy (my Battle 2 Pro became mushy after 3-4 months)

 
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Tomorrow is the day im gonna play my 41° J3 on fh. But i switched my plans a little bit. Instead of testing it right of the bat on my FZD ALC, i just put it down on my new Sanwei super 75 PBO. The reason for that is, that testing it with my K2 was okish but felt way too fast. The carbon difference is huge and had a really weird feeling. Need a change here so i am curious if that rubber will do the trick.
The Moon 12 is ready to be played again. I just tested it once on monday but failed to glue it propperly so the rubber lost its grip a bit on the upper edge of the blade -.-
Tomorrow im ready for a second try. Probably gonna review it in a thread on its own. Have a little video time with me and a robot comparing FZD ALC-Sanwei super 75 PBO too. Gonna put that up too, until im ready to cut some crap out of it^^
 
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Tomorrow is the day im gonna play my 41° J3 on fh. But i switched my plans a little bit. Instead of testing it right of the bat on my FZD ALC, i just put it down on my new Sanwei super 75 PBO. The reason for that is, that testing it with my K2 was okish but felt way too fast. The carbon difference is huge and had a really weird feeling. Need a change here so i am curious if that rubber will do the trick.
The Moon 12 is ready to be played again. I just tested it once on monday but failed to glue it propperly so the rubber lost its grip a bit on the upper edge of the blade -.-
Tomorrow im ready for a second try. Probably gonna review it in a thread on its own. Have a little video time with me and a robot comparing FZD ALC-Sanwei super 75 PBO too. Gonna put that up too, until im ready to cut some crap out of it^^
Sounds good. Make sure to compare the J3 against the LAC.

 
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Today I tested out the 41d J3 on FH with Big Dipper 38 on backhand.

I was wondering if the 41d would feel harder and dead, but it is still just bouncy. This is a very very fast rubber, and with the increased hardness, the total offensive potential is even greater. It's less forgiving, but when you time a loop right, its very fast and spinny. Also, the 41d seems noticeably tackier than 39d. But I don't know if that is on purpose, or if it just varies a little batch to batch.

The Big Dipper on backhand wasn't quite as catapulty as I thought it would be. It is very spinny and responsive and good at lifting underspin, but just not as much catapult as I thought there would be. Maybe it would benefit from booster.
 
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Today I tested out the 41d J3 on FH with Big Dipper 38 on backhand.

I was wondering if the 41d would feel harder and dead, but it is still just bouncy. This is a very very fast rubber, and with the increased hardness, the total offensive potential is even greater. It's less forgiving, but when you time a loop right, its very fast and spinny. Also, the 41d seems noticeably tackier than 39d. But I don't know if that is on purpose, or if it just varies a little batch to batch.

The Big Dipper on backhand wasn't quite as catapulty as I thought it would be. It is very spinny and responsive and good at lifting underspin, but just not as much catapult as I thought there would be. Maybe it would benefit from booster.

Seems like the J3 41d will suit me better, unfortunately I can only find 40d version. For the Big Dipper I don't like it, it's very dead

 
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The Big Dipper on backhand wasn't quite as catapulty as I thought it would be. It is very spinny and responsive and good at lifting underspin, but just not as much catapult as I thought there would be. Maybe it would benefit from booster.

The Big Dipper H38 arrived, all I can say is that the hardness on my internal scale is 42, which is about the same as Rakza X and Z (they are close), and a bit harder than H3 H37 and H8-80 H37 (cca 40), so it matches the declared hardness. I didn't weight it, keeping protectors on, will not glue immediately.

What you and Long say about it, that it is not that fast, is a good news, I am really looking forward. The sponge is incredibly yellow :)
 
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Today I tested out the 41d J3 on FH with Big Dipper 38 on backhand.

I was wondering if the 41d would feel harder and dead, but it is still just bouncy. This is a very very fast rubber, and with the increased hardness, the total offensive potential is even greater. It's less forgiving, but when you time a loop right, its very fast and spinny. Also, the 41d seems noticeably tackier than 39d. But I don't know if that is on purpose, or if it just varies a little batch to batch.

The Big Dipper on backhand wasn't quite as catapulty as I thought it would be. It is very spinny and responsive and good at lifting underspin, but just not as much catapult as I thought there would be. Maybe it would benefit from booster.

So i tested the 41 too on my PBO... but holy moly was that a fast setup. I actually wished for a more slower and controlled setting with the hardness but my shots were more like gunshots. The sound was pretty amazing too^^ I actually could perform quite well with it. Some errors of course with shots going too wide, but way less than i thought after the warmup.
So i still have a good arc with it but i definitly have to adjust my technique a bit, especially if i want to attack close to the table.

Now i actually have a big problem with the 37. First i wanted to put it on my FZD ALC too, to compare it directly, but the H8-80 feels shitty with my technique on the PBO. I make many errors with flicks and counterattacks, which i actually dont do with the moon 12 on the alc, so right now am tending to change the H8-80 on the PBO and let the FZD ALC setup the way it is right now, because im quite happy with it.

Ah, and before i forget the comparison you wished for: The J3 is way faster than the LAC. Arc is around the same, which is pretty amazing for such a fast rubber. Spin level might be a bit in favor of the LAC but that is hard to judge because of the change of the blade too. LAC is more controllable though and gives you slightly more room for error but not that much for me, that i actually would rate the LAC over all better than the J3.
At least for fh im quite surprised by that rubber. If that rubber is consistent i might even stick with it for a longer time as my new rocket launcher. But that will be decided in the next training sessions.

 
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