Yinhe Jupiter 3 Amazing Rubber

[h3llary]

Just double checked, I guess the initial tack when I ripped the protective cover for the rubber was higher, right now it can barely hold a ball for 1-2 seconds but it feels slightly tacky

 

[Egon]

Finally tried Jupiter 39 asia, black on Yinhe Pro 01. I have never played with a better rubber. This one would be my go to from now on.

I don't know what it is, perhaps it's the synergy of the yinhe blade and the rubber but I have never felt more control in my entire hobby player career (4 years so far). The shots went exactly where I wanted them to land, I could do slow spinny or fast and flat, doesn't matter, the rubber felt absolutely controllabe. On the backhand I had yinhe moon blue hard and it was not nearly as good. Higher throw, softer, significantly less spin. I got yinhe moon blue just because I had played couple days ago against a guy with Yinhe Moon Pro red and his slow spinny loops were out of this world, they had far more spin than any dignics/tenergy that I had seen. But that guy was a leftie and a penholder so I assume he would have more spin in his loops by default.

Jupiter 3 plays great from the start, but this lasts on average 2 weeks. After that, the factory booster loses its strength and the rubber needs to be boosted. You will feel it right away when this happens - the rubber will become harder and slower.

 

[Angerer]

Finally tried Jupiter 39 asia, black on Yinhe Pro 01. I have never played with a better rubber. This one would be my go to from now on.

I don't know what it is, perhaps it's the synergy of the yinhe blade and the rubber but I have never felt more control in my entire hobby player career (4 years so far). The shots went exactly where I wanted them to land, I could do slow spinny or fast and flat, doesn't matter, the rubber felt absolutely controllabe. On the backhand I had yinhe moon blue hard and it was not nearly as good. Higher throw, softer, significantly less spin. I got yinhe moon blue just because I had played couple days ago against a guy with Yinhe Moon Pro red and his slow spinny loops were out of this world, they had far more spin than any dignics/tenergy that I had seen. But that guy was a leftie and a penholder so I assume he would have more spin in his loops by default.

Imo, J3A is a clear winner among all rubbers in the price-to-performance category. For me, the only downside is the lack of "feeling"--although I consistently hit the table with J3A, I doubt my every shot. I mean, I don't understand why I manage to hit with J3A, where the spin comes from, and sometimes I feel that the blade and the rubber play like different parts, but it somehow works. (I have 3 club teammates who have roughly the same experience with J3A)
Maybe it's the lack of dwell or the "hollow, cheap" feeling, but it feels cheap. However, unlike other cheap rubbers, this one works.

All these words aside, I think the main selling point of J3A is spin. I genuinely don't know any other rubber that allowed me to produce greasy spin with this little wrist movement. No need to choose perfect angle, no need to make a long arm movement, just a quick "arm convulsion" (xD) and the ball is LACED with spin. Not a Hurricane 3 level of spin but somewhat close.

 

[Egon]

My moon blue is also a tacky rubber, even though it's hard version it's still soft and higher throwing compared to J3 39.

My Moon 12 Blue was absolutely not sticky, and the regular Moon and Moon Speed were also not sticky. As far as I understand, the Moon Pro topsheet is not sticky from the regular Moon, but it has a different purple sponge. Unfortunately, I haven't played with it, so I can't say for sure. Maybe there was confusion with the Sun Pro rubber, which is really sticky?

 

[h3llary]

Imo, J3A is a clear winner among all rubbers in the price-to-performance category. For me, the only downside is the lack of "feeling"--although I consistently hit the table with J3A, I doubt my every shot. I mean, I don't understand why I manage to hit with J3A, where the spin comes from, and sometimes I feel that the blade and the rubber play like different parts, but it somehow works. (I have 3 club teammates who have roughly the same experience with J3A)
Maybe it's the lack of dwell or the "hollow, cheap" feeling, but it feels cheap. However, unlike other cheap rubbers, this one works.

All these words aside, I think the main selling point of J3A is spin. I genuinely don't know any other rubber that allowed me to produce greasy spin with this little wrist movement. No need to choose perfect angle, no need to make a long arm movement, just a quick "arm convulsion" (xD) and the ball is LACED with spin. Not a Hurricane 3 level of spin but somewhat close.

I feel like I have the opposite feeling. I have an absolute confidence in my shots and I know exactly where they are going to land. The feeling is not there but it my battle 2 gold or h3 prov 39 didn't have any better feeling. Switching to J3 has tremendously increased the amout of shots landed and therefore won points. If I want to I can go for outright 3rd attack or I can continue safely topspinning the ball. With h3 or b2g I didn't have that much confidence for some reason. B2g I feel like was reacting to incoming spin way too much and the throw was way lower than J3, with H3 the throw was higher, and J3 is something in between which is what I needed I guess.

 

[FH_Project]

I played with this rubber(39° FH[50gr], 37 BH[50gr]) yesterday without any booster on HL5(90gr blade, total 190gr). It was decent rubber. The catapult felt like Battle 2 prov. blue sponge.

I couldn't generate powerful backspin on serves, but side, side backspin was effective. Easy to do short no spin serves to backhand (very effective against those who flip every ball)

Pushing short/long/varying was pretty easy after T19.

Strong open ups was easy to do without worrying my technique/bat angle etc. Slow ones weren't dangerous as fast ones.

2-3 step behind the table was also not an issue to play topspin. But I struggled to play counter topspin because of catapult. Whenever the topspin from opponent comes little short and/or little more spin, rubber effected by topspin alot and catapulted too much. Maybe less springy and a stiff blade would be better for this purpose, like TBALC.

I reckoned a problem with catapult. It is like there is a pretty inconsistent range in terms of power and spin. I know it is not a linear rubber but to explain it super scientifically:

It felt useless to play %60-%80 power. It is like ball is already gone without spinning enough. Maybe I get used to its characteristics, but playing at medium power should be done wisely, else it is pretty disadvantageous.

On the backhand I need more time to get use to play at medium pace after playing with ESN rubbers. The topspins were powerful, but trajectory was too long for good enough spinned shots. It shoots pretty fast and sharp. Maybe equal to full power BH shot with TBALC and T05. Again mid speeds was only good for keeping the ball on the table, if you ignore opponent smashing that returns

I lost to a guy who playes basic drive with long serve and keeps the ball on the table. It was really hard to play backhand consistently. That was mostly my problem, but rubbers play also role at various balls.

Against long pimple defensive player(close to table) was too easy after T19. I spinned almost every ball without problem.

I guess, BH is not the right rubber for me. I have to be able to play at mid speeds. It is necessary at my level. Therefore today I am going to play with Hybrid MK(45gr) on BH to eliminate my inconsistancy.

 

[Egon]

I played with this rubber(39° FH[50gr], 37 BH[50gr]) yesterday without any booster on HL5(90gr blade, total 190gr). It was decent rubber. The catapult felt like Battle 2 prov. blue sponge.

I couldn't generate powerful backspin on serves, but side, side backspin was effective. Easy to do short no spin serves to backhand (very effective against those who flip every ball)

Pushing short/long/varying was pretty easy after T19.

Strong open ups was easy to do without worrying my technique/bat angle etc. Slow ones weren't dangerous as fast ones.

2-3 step behind the table was also not an issue to play topspin. But I struggled to play counter topspin because of catapult. Whenever the topspin from opponent comes little short and/or little more spin, rubber effected by topspin alot and catapulted too much. Maybe less springy and a stiff blade would be better for this purpose, like TBALC.

I reckoned a problem with catapult. It is like there is a pretty inconsistent range in terms of power and spin. I know it is not a linear rubber but to explain it super scientifically:

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It felt useless to play %60-%80 power. It is like ball is already gone without spinning enough. Maybe I get used to its characteristics, but playing at medium power should be done wisely, else it is pretty disadvantageous.

On the backhand I need more time to get use to play at medium pace after playing with ESN rubbers. The topspins were powerful, but trajectory was too long for good enough spinned shots. It shoots pretty fast and sharp. Maybe equal to full power BH shot with TBALC and T05. Again mid speeds was only good for keeping the ball on the table, if you ignore opponent smashing that returns

I lost to a guy who playes basic drive with long serve and keeps the ball on the table. It was really hard to play backhand consistently. That was mostly my problem, but rubbers play also role at various balls.

Against long pimple defensive player(close to table) was too easy after T19. I spinned almost every ball without problem.

I guess, BH is not the right rubber for me. I have to be able to play at mid speeds. It is necessary at my level. Therefore today I am going to play with Hybrid MK(45gr) on BH to eliminate my inconsistancy.

If you used new rubbers, they have a factory booster. In 2 weeks everything will change for the worse. To maintain the current performance, you need to use a booster, otherwise J3 does not play

 

[FH_Project]

If you used new rubbers, they have a factory booster. In 2 weeks everything will change for the worse. To maintain the current performance, you need to use a booster, otherwise J3 does not play

Probably, but base speed is pretty high for now. Doesn't boosting high catapult rubber make it more mushy and less spin?

 

[Angerer]

Probably, but base speed is pretty high for now. Doesn't boosting high catapult rubber make it more mushy and less spin?

At least when using Falco Tempo Long (2 layers please), the booster adds a lot of spin to J3.
And it will make execution of shots much easier, helping beat the guy who "plays basic drives".
For me, J3 without a booster is a semi-dead mediocre rubber but with decent spin and short game. With a booster, it is among top dogs in the game that competes with premium rubbers.

 

[FH_Project]

So I played with it two more days against various opponents at the league.

Day 2:
Opponent 1: [fast counter driver, of the bounce empty long BH serve, short push against pendulum(with big arm motion), forehand diagonal kill shot] (The one I lost on Day 1 with our 2nd club team).
I was comfortable this time against his serves with Hybrid MK BH. I found always enough time to spin the ball even just after the bounce. He couldn't put the ball back to table. I lost only 1 set. It was pretty comfortable

Opponent 2: [150 more TTR than me, controlled game, not much spin. He puts many balls onto table before loosing point]. Match went pretty much head to head although he won 4-5 balls with ball hitting net and edge on 4th. I made mistake at mostly BH. Ball hit edge or missed completely because of racket head weight(TB ALC-> HL5).

Opponnent 3: [Long Pimple modern defensive game, does mistake on basic stuff] easy win

Feeling with rubber and blade combination: 7/10. Couldn't control depth and placement of my serves. I am still doing many mistakes. Slow spinny loop is not easy like Hurricane 3, it requires tensed arm. This causes ball going long and easy for opponent than low, slow, short spinny loop. It is hard to slow down the pace. It is like less pace less quality.

Day 3:
Opponent 1: Wow nightmare [Seamiller grip while blocking, sharp push with wrist(not speedy but lots of backspin), almost no spin with topspin motion, no pace, nothing]
I did so many mistakes although I was the one always atacking. My forehand wasn't problem nor rubber, maybe the blade was too fast for very slow game with dead blocks. I always spin out empty balls. They were coming mostly short. It was pretty hard to create arc against a no spin ball. Pretty uncomfortable match. I lost 3-1

Opponent 2: [Again too much no spin with topspin motion, rest is normal type two wings attacker] Relatively easy win except no spin topspins

Opponent 3: [Modern defensive player with anti, has D05 but pretty used, thus no spin topspin ]
I did too many mistake against anti-chop. I litterally blocked his FH topspins to my side of table. Crazy. Lost 3-1

To summarize:
I guesss it goes well with HL5. It kinda hides rubber's less spin on %50-%60 power shots. Pendulum fast side spin serves go well. Short spinny backspin serve is not easy. I this, if you put side spin, you can generate much more backspin with it. Probably it is a technique issue.
Forehand topspin requires more arm acceleration vs Hurricane 3(boosted of course) in order to generate same spin.

If you used new rubbers, they have a factory booster. In 2 weeks everything will change for the worse. To maintain the current performance, you need to use a booster, otherwise J3 does not play

Rubbers were new. I didn't boost them, because they were already fast. But once it dies, I try to boost it with a bit light layers, else I am sure it will be too mushy.

 

[Aung Thuya]

Go for J3 and not BD.
Your playing style doesnt help to decide which hardness. More on what you are capable with your fh. If J2 is too slow J3 can be the solution and i just wouldnt go 41 as myself because you are playing an ALC and i am using my PBO right now, which is way stiffer and can press more easily through the rubber, so i get a way better bounce of than on any of my ALCs (played with 01 too - still have it in use).

But in general 39 is always a good starting point. If you need less dwell and more direct feel you can still go up in the scale.

Thanks bro you're right, now ju3 h39 feels like slow for me when playing distance from table and the next rubber will be h40 or h41 but I am not sure bec I afraid it will difficult for lifting under spin. And what will be blocking and serving with h41.For backhand Which Chinese rubbers are good bro, mine is yinhe earth2 med and most r recommend moon 12 blue. Is there any rubbers good for bh? pls sharing ur experiences thanks 🙏