Kind of ridiculous right that it was closed? !!!
there was 1 cry baby about conspiracy and many other people took on the purpose of the thread and answered (including from many users that I had not even known have existed).
From what limited data I collected on TTD, and from what I saw from initial thread created by a Malaysian. It is only Malaysia, Singapore, Hong Kong, Macau and users of H branded phones that has this issue. I was shocked to learn of Malaysia and Singapore. I guess I am lucky to have our own uncle Gozo to confirm he is also affected, so that is evideance I am on something and not just fabricating stories. Even emoji's wikipedia has such content (with its link removed from TTD). I am worried how TTD acts to be honest, who would have thought emoji links are bannable?
We don't need conspiracy on China's treatment over Taiwan, or its sending of dozens to hundreds of war planes flying into war provoking territory on a daily bases for the past 10 years. Just like Russia's initial claim of "special operation and not war" on Ukraine. Things we may not talk about, but we know who is provoking and who is bullying and who is the aggressor.
Since we don't need conspiracy theory on Taiwan, as I would assume most people knows what is going on, I did not bother talking about mis-treatment until replying to the cry baby. But if it is a table tennis forum, sure, table tennis then.....
table tennis questions:
Why WTT don't have Chinese Taipei flags in some venues? or don't have it for medal ceremony purposes?
Did Chinese Taipei not pay its bills or entry fees, so can't get the same treatment as other teams in that venue?
If Chinese Taipei - a top nation in this sport gets this kind of treatment - are the smaller nations getting worse treatments? (from my experience - these small nations don't get to warm up on center court tables.... so second class citizens maybe? I believe all should be fair and affordable ratio wise equal oppurtunitues)
I have witness myself at a world junior championships, so I am not talking about some feeder or mickey mouse competition somewhere in relating to the flag issue during ceremony. I was sitting next to the head of the TPE contingent when ITTF came to ask if the team has a flag for them to borrow.... I translated the dialogue between event staff and TPE team. That was the first incident where I felt a big wow and disappointment by a world sporting body at a championships.
I later heard from the other coaches, it happens very often and they are used to it. So they bring they own flags and will just be mum on many other matters.
Why do they prepare for all nations but not "one special region" or "one rebel province of China that has the rights to take part as Chinese Taipei"? Surely, if you allow the partipation, fairness should prevail?
Well, since Taiwanese has a view that sport people don't get into politics, and have never complained, Taiwanese athletes has taken all these mis-treatment as "unfortunate". That is Taiwanese people kindness, but I have to say, it is not weakness as they choose to close an eye and live with peace as if they are "too voicy", then "you know who" might not allow sport people to participate or maybe it will trigger more airplanes flying in Taiwanese airspace. There is litterially a gun pointing in the head
But the moment some venue (including China's diplomatic allies), put on the national flag of Taiwan, then within an hour or two, an official complaint from CTTA will come and have the flag removed. Events where CTTA isn't present, you would see the flag hanging throughout (probably happens 1 or 2 times a year), so I have sene BOTH sides. This is probably a local organizing committee issue, but its all under ITTF/WTT watch and they allowed both flags "problem" to surface - clearly administration/operation issue somewhere and one side complains, the TPE side don't complain.
Back to the picture shared in the thread, why when Chinese Taipei has winners, WTT choose to remove any representation - including that of Chinese Taipei flag or wording on its social media? its okay to put Hong Kong?
So we have a bunch of kids (of which, all but one, I know in person) are on as unrepresented sport stars?
I did not talk on any of the above with flag and table tennis, as I know it is senestive and would lead to conspiracy. Hence I said, it is not a political post.
Now back to what I wanted to ask - how many countries phones has been infiltrated with the removal of one flag.
To me, it is not about choosing sides, you can choose to reject the position of Taiwan and its flag (that is another subject), but do you accept that your phone has been, somewhat, tampered with, without your approval?
I wanted to see how crazy the flag removal has been penatrated.
blahblah believes it just some bug. Yeah, how convenient is that, just like that Putin guy calls it special operation and many probably believes in that still today.
for the sake of political correctness, sure, its some bug.
You would assume, in Taiwan's position today to accept themselves in the sporty world as Chinese Taipei, it will at least still be treated fairly, including its high position in this sport. Well, maybe some other sports, it will be more respected.... not table tennis for sure.
But that is not my agenda today even typing such long post. I have lived with it for many years and what I can do is, at least is promote the good of Taiwanese table tennis for the world to see, since its development structure in the young age (elemantory school) is one of the best in the world.
Yesturday I had coffee with a former national team coach, and we were chatting on the actual playing population.
Taiwan has around 100k births a year.
so give and take, a 5 year period, there is around 600k kids.
During a tournament, U11, U12, U13, U15, there was 6000 entries (one kid allowed one entry only), and we will guestimating the amount that didn't enter, which we conclude to easily that of 5 folds or more.
so say 40000 kids playing table tennis in a school team (sport team or social team within the school), of between U11 to U15 ages (5 year period), that is 8% of the actual population.
Now I wonder who can beat that?
We do believe it could easily be 100k kids, thus making it 16.6%.
Taiwan and table tenins is great and can be pioneers for many countries to follow. (It also has problems, like no professional league - the only TOP COUNTRY in the world to not have such a league - how shocking right?? well, I can leave that to some other day).
Mistreatment - sadly it is there, but the actual victims (team members) has accepted it as fate and not going to fight about it any time soon.
Me, very simple check and question, with my so called friends on TTD - thank you for contributing and it seems most of the world is not affected by the emjoy flag bug that is now officially deemed too sensitive of a question to ask on TTD.
I did have a feeling I was on a Chinese forum. I hope one day, we don't have further crackdown on European hosted table tennis forums. good luck to all.
