China Super League 2015 (CTTSL)

[TTHopeful]

Perfect updates as usual everyone! What is the date of round 3 and team schedule?

 

[sebas-aguirre]

do japanese players ever play in chinese league?

 

[aerial]

This is the first season I'm paying attention to the CTTSL and I have to admit I am seeing some things that can be improved upon pretty easily.

I REALLY dislike how all the players' uniforms are the same--just a change in color for "home" team and "away" team.

This lacks personality. It lacks individualism. And it does not allow for fandom.

If the NBA was like this imagine how un-unique the fans would be in the crowd... Every stadium filled with orange? NO! Every stadium unique and every stadium with their own banner/logos...

This is supposed to be the strongest league in the world but I think it lacks a lot in glamor to what the German Bundesliga has.

When Ma Long won the recently concluded world championships I scoured the web for a "Ma Long" jersey but I couldn't find one! I even asked some international friends to look for me--found the same jersey but no letters and no flag...

I'm convinced that Chinese companies just don't know how to sell a product. If you watch the ITTF monthly pongcasts the little ad in the middle for DHS is completely dreadful...--a 30 second hodgepodge of something that looks like it was created in MSPaint, but for Nittaku it's this awesome 30 second clip of their product with classical music.

I am somewhat convinced the reason table tennis is not able to achieve the fandom and superstar status of other sports is because the Chinese really just don't know how to market.

 

[TT4Life]

maybe u just dont know where to look for authentic Li Ning stuffs

 

[aerial]

http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?sp...5335569ed55e27b&abbucket=11&skuld=58262921882

This is what I found after looking for around 15-20 min. a couple days after 2015 WTTC, but it does not have "Ma Long" written on it...

 

[zjkfanforever]

I have a few questions:
1) Why do they play to 7 in the deciding game?
2) Why is the doubles match a best of 3?
3) Are there no different jersey's for every team, is it just a jersey for home and away team? (personally: what an ugly ass jersey's this year)

Question 1) and 2) are due to CTTSL's playing system outlined below:

Playing methods:

1. Each round will be best of five games

2. The order of play

1st Game: A - X
2nd Game: B - Y
3rd Game: Double
4th Game: A - Y
5th Game: C - Z

3. 1st, 2nd, 4th game will be best of five sets, the first four sets will be 11 points, the fifth set will be 7 points

4. 3rd game (double) and the 5th game will be best of three sets. The first two sets will be 11 points, the third set will be 7 points

5. A player could only play two games in each round

6. Double's players could be any one except for player A and Y

7. Players for the fifth game could be anyone that have not played in the first or second game

 

[zjkfanforever]

Perfect updates as usual everyone! What is the date of round 3 and team schedule?

Men's Round 3-4 Schedule

Date	Round	Order	Home	Away	Time
May 30 （Sat.）	3	11	Luneng	Guangdong	19:30
		12	Bazhou	Tianjin	19:30
		13	Sichuan	Weiqiao	15:30
		14	Jiangsu	Shanghai	19:30
		15	Ningbo	Bayi	TBD
June 2 (Tue.)	4	16	Tianjin	Luneng	19:30
		17	Weiqiao	Guangdong	19:30
		18	Shanghai	Bazhou	19:30
		19	Bayi	Sichuan	19:30
		20	Ningbo	Jiangsu	TBD

 

[TTHopeful]

Men's Round 3-4 Schedule

Date	Round	Order	Home	Away	Time
May 30 （Sat.）	3	11	Luneng	Guangdong	19:30
		12	Bazhou	Tianjin	19:30
		13	Sichuan	Weiqian	15:30
		14	Jiangsu	Shanghai	19:30
		15	Ningbo	Bayi	TBD
June 2 (Tue.)	4	16	Tianjin	Luneng	19:30
		17	Weiqiao	Guangdong	19:30
		18	Shanghai	Bazhou	19:30
		19	Bayi	Sichuan	19:30
		20	Ningbo	Jiangsu	TBD

Thank you! Cool Ma Long vs Fan Zhendong perhaps!

 

[Sa1ko]

Question 1) and 2) are due to CTTSL's playing system outlined below:

Playing methods:

1. Each round will be best of five games

2. The order of play

1st Game: A - X
2nd Game: B - Y
3rd Game: Double
4th Game: A - Y
5th Game: C - Z

3. 1st, 2nd, 4th game will be best of five sets, the first four sets will be 11 points, the fifth set will be 7 points

4. 3rd game (double) and the 5th game will be best of three sets. The first two sets will be 11 points, the third set will be 7 points

5. A player could only play two games in each round

6. Double's players could be any one except for player A and Y

7. Players for the fifth game could be anyone that have not played in the first or second game

thanks for the answer, but i'm still puzzled as to why it's only to 7 points in the deciding set and why the doubles and the last match is a best of 3, is it a way to raise tension in those (close) matches and therefore a way to make it more exciting for the spectators?

 

[zjkfanforever]

thanks for the answer, but i'm still puzzled as to why it's only to 7 points in the deciding set and why the doubles and the last match is a best of 3, is it a way to raise tension in those (close) matches and therefore a way to make it more exciting for the spectators?

Mainly to reduce the playing time for live broadcast purpose.

 

[zjkfanforever]

This is the first season I'm paying attention to the CTTSL and I have to admit I am seeing some things that can be improved upon pretty easily.

I REALLY dislike how all the players' uniforms are the same--just a change in color for "home" team and "away" team.

This lacks personality. It lacks individualism. And it does not allow for fandom.

If the NBA was like this imagine how un-unique the fans would be in the crowd... Every stadium filled with orange? NO! Every stadium unique and every stadium with their own banner/logos...

This is supposed to be the strongest league in the world but I think it lacks a lot in glamor to what the German Bundesliga has.

When Ma Long won the recently concluded world championships I scoured the web for a "Ma Long" jersey but I couldn't find one! I even asked some international friends to look for me--found the same jersey but no letters and no flag...

I'm convinced that Chinese companies just don't know how to sell a product. If you watch the ITTF monthly pongcasts the little ad in the middle for DHS is completely dreadful...--a 30 second hodgepodge of something that looks like it was created in MSPaint, but for Nittaku it's this awesome 30 second clip of their product with classical music.

I am somewhat convinced the reason table tennis is not able to achieve the fandom and superstar status of other sports is because the Chinese really just don't know how to market.

Unlike professional sports teams in the U.S., Chinese club does not own its players outright. For example, it does not have the right to sell team jersey with players' names, the National Badminton and Table Tennis Center owns the right, and the Center sells the right to Li Ning company in exchange for team sponsorship.

 

[aerial]

ok, so does that mean it's Li Ning's fault I can't buy a shirt that says "Ma Long"?

 

[TT4Life]

U can get that tailor in the U.S after you bought the original jersey

 

[zjkfanforever]

Live stream for May 30 & May 31's games

CTTSL Official Site

May 30 19:30 Luneng - Guangdong
May 31 15:30 Beijing - Ordos

Live Stream: http://cttsl.sports.cn/

Shandong Sports Channel

May 30 19:30 Luneng - Guangdong

Live Stream:http://v.iqilu.com/live/typd/

 

[joskokustura]

US or European time?

 

[htfu]

those would be chinese local times so you would need to convert them ...

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html

 

[jrstudio]

those would be chinese local times so you would need to convert them ...

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html

That would mean that they started already, but none of the stream links are working for me :/. http://cttsl.sports.cn/ and http://www.fun.tv/live?cid=20 doesn't even want to load and http://v.iqilu.com/live/typd/ loads barely and doesn't work

 

[htfu]

yeah, i've not been able to get many of those streams to work ... (it's most likely a bandwidth and or great-firewall-of-china issue)

 

[John18]

The CTTSL stream always works for me : http://cttsl.sports.cn/video/v.html
It's just that you have to click on a link which is on the right of the page under this "直播预告"

for example for the match now, you must click this : "5月30日19:30 山东鲁能—广东深圳明金海"

EDIT : Well, the match is over now but you can try next time if you didn't do like this already.

 

[zjkfanforever]

May 30's Results (Round 3)

Home：Luneng 3:1 Away：Guangdong

2015 Men Team Stage 1 Round 3
	Player	Set 1	Set 2	Set 3	Set 4	Set 5	Score
Game 1	Fang Bo vs Liu Jikang	11:8	11:5	11:5			3:0
Game 2	Zhang Jike vs Yin Hang	13:11	11:6	11:6			3:0
Game 3	Hao Shuai/Zhang Chao vs Wong Chun Ting/Yin Hang	11:6	8:11	7:9			1:2
Game 4	Zhang Jike vs Liu Jikang	11:6	16:14	11:4			3:0
Game 5	Zhang Chao vs Wong Chun Ting	0:0	0:0	0:0	0:0	0:0	0:0

Home：Bazhou 3:0 Away：Tianjin

2015 Men Team Stage 1 Round 3
	Player	Set 1	Set 2	Set 3	Set 4	Set 5	Score
Game 1	Ren Hao vs Chuang Chih Yuan	3:11	11:8	7:11	13:11	9:7	3:2
Game 2	Fan Shengpeng vs Liu Dingshuo	11:13	12:10	11:8	9:11	7:4	3:2
Game 3	Zhai Chao/Cheng Jingqi vs Liu Dingshuo/Wei Shihao	11:7	9:11	7:4			2:1
Game 4	Fan Shengpeng vs Chuang Chihyuan	0:0	0:0	0:0	0:0	0:0	0:0
Game 5	Wang Chuqin vs Ma Te	0:0	0:0	0:0	0:0	0:0	0:0

Home：Sichuan 1:3 Away：Weiqiao

2015 Men Team Stage 1 Round 3
	Player	Set 1	Set 2	Set 3	Set 4	Set 5	Score
Game 1	Zhu Linfeng vs Cui Qinglei	11:7	11:9	11:9			3:0
Game 2	Lai Jiaxin vs Liang Jingkun	11:9	10:12	11:9	11:13	5:7	2:3
Game 3	Xu Ruifeng/Lai Jiaxin vs Cui Qinglei/Yu Ziyang	7:11	11:8	5:7			1:2
Game 4	Zhu Linfeng vs Liang Jingkun	12:10	10:12	8:11	8:11		1:3
Game 5	Xu Ruifeng vs Yu Ziyang	0:0	0:0	0:0	0:0	0:0	0:0

Home：Jiangsu 0:3 Away：Shanghai

2015 Men Team Stage 1 Round 3
	Player	Set 1	Set 2	Set 3	Set 4	Set 5	Score
Game 1	Zheng Peifeng vs Xu Xin	11:9	7:11	9:11	8:11		1:3
Game 2	Kong Lingxuan vs Shang Kun	8:11	5:11	10:12			0:3
Game 3	Lin Chen/Cai Wei vs Zhao Zihao/Shang Kun	11:8	4:11	5:7			1:2
Game 4	Kong Lingxuan vs Xu Xin	0:0	0:0	0:0	0:0	0:0	0:0
Game 5	Kim Minseok vs Zhao Zihao	0:0	0:0	0:0	0:0	0:0	0:0

Home：Ningbo 3:2 Away：Bayi

2015 Men Team Stage 1 Round
	Player	Set 1	Set 2	Set 3	Set 4	Set 5	Score
Game 1	Yan An vs Fan Zhendong	8:11	12:10	8:11	7:11		1:3
Game 2	Ma Long vs Xu Chenhao	11:5	11:4	9:11	11:3		3:1
Game 3	Yan An/Lin Gaoyuan vs Zhou Yu/Xu Chenhao	12:10	11:4				2:0
Game 4	Ma Long vs Fan Zhen	15:13	11:8	6:11	10:12	4:7	2:3
Game 5	Lin Gaoyuan vs Zhou Kai	11:8	11:5				2:0