Recommend me a new LP rubber.

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I'm currently using Giant Dragon Meteorite (0.5mm sponge in red) on my BH. I play a modern defensive sort of game and am getting on well with the rubber, but I'm wondering if anyone can recommend an upgrade: I'm thinking I'd like something that has the potential to be a tad more aggressive. Maybe something that has slightly softer pips that will flex a bit more to allow me to generate a bit more of my own spin, but will still have good potential for spin reversal on chops etc. I don't really want to change the sponge thickness so would be looking for something that comes in a 0.5-0.6mm thickness.

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Thanks for your input, guys. I think I might try Giant Dragon Cropcircles.

Interesting, I found this about it on OOak:
http://ooakforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=19553&start=30
"Meteorite = Best control, minimal disruption
Meteorite Soft = Slower, softer version
Giant Long = Good control, some disruption
Giant Long Soft = Slower, softer version
Dragon Talon = OK control, more disruption
Snowflake = Slightly better control than Talon, slightly less disruption
Crop Circles = Slow and grippy"

So it does probably have more grip, but probably rather slower than faster.
 
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You are not ever gunna get both "spin reversal" and ability to make your own spin in an LP, it is almost like trying to make a tire that is both outstanding on snow/ice and outstanding on a drag strip - two opposite requirements.

Players who want to play a modern defensive game will choose a flexy large sized blade and glue on a max sponge very grippy LP. Often, it is Tibhar Grass D-Techs or Curl P1R. This is to maximize the ability to kill spin or manipulate it. A rank amateur could take the same equipment and TRY to play like the pro level modern defender, but it won't work out right away. That style places HUGE demands on mobility, getting into position, continually moving the feet, and a lot of technically sound stroke production. This is too much for a lot of amateur players.

Often, an amateur player will get something that matches better for them close to the table. Many of these are really old players who do not or cannot move around too much. If we are talking about sponged LP, these players place a premium on either sticking out the bat and continuing spin (think slippery kinda LP in OX) or killing spin with grip and hand pressure and bat angle taking ball off bounce or retrieving it. These can be tricky amateur players to face if you are not used to them. Some of them also value an LP that can more aggressive return serves with a punch or short receive. (Nexy Chaos is a good one for this, but there are several - like Cloud-Fog already mentioned.)

Some players will park themselves at the table and take everything off the bounce with their LPs and often use an OX. So many different LPs are used by these players you have to try a lot to see which one fits you blade and ability to do what you want off the bounce.

There really are not too many hard-set rules for rubber selection with the amateur crowd as they have adapted how they play using whatever the cat drug in and they deal with it, just fine.
 
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You are not ever gunna get both "spin reversal" and ability to make your own spin in an LP, it is almost like trying to make a tire that is both outstanding on snow/ice and outstanding on a drag strip - two opposite requirements.

I see...it was my understanding that you could get LP rubbers that has pips where the sides of the pips had more grip than the tops of the pips such that you could produce spin reversal by hitting the ball in such a way that only the pip tops made contact, whilst you could also "brush" the ball in order to make the pip sides come into contact with the ball which would produce more of your own spin.

is this not the case?
 
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I see...it was my understanding that you could get LP rubbers that has pips where the sides of the pips had more grip than the tops of the pips such that you could produce spin reversal by hitting the ball in such a way that only the pip tops made contact, whilst you could also "brush" the ball in order to make the pip sides come into contact with the ball which would produce more of your own spin.

is this not the case?
As far as i know,

Treating pips, like adding “glassy treatment” on tops of pips is illegal, but,

No rule state that the pips must be homogenous on all sides. :)



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Can anyone offer any clarity on the following for me;

you our can buy Lp's where the pimples have a ribbed/rough top, but the sides of the stalks are smooth. so on that basis, the whole surface area of the pip does not need to be equally grippy. But is the reverse arrangement ok i.e. Smooth tops to the pimple but rough(er) sides to the stalks?
 
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