Daily Table Tennis Chit Chat

[laistrogian]

Last night I put my paddle down next to my bag and started picking up the tables. When I got back to my bag I noticed my paddle was gone. Hopefully someone just grabbed it by accident as they were packing up their own stuff, since they'd never be able to use the paddle themselves (everyone would recognize it) it would be stupid to steal.

If it was stolen I'm sure it was well deserved on my part. But hey, maybe it's time to go to carbon ;P

Yep, it's time to get innerforce series blade

 

[baumschule]

Forget about the rubbers. Shuki uses a hand made blade that takes months for the guy to make after it is ordered.

If you ordered a new one Shuki, how long would it take before it was made and you received it? A year? Or is it even more than that.

That is a hand made custom blade from Ross Leidy.

http://rossleidy.com

They are like works of art.

Wow that sounds even more unfortunate then. I hope you can somehow get it back shuki

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Wow that sounds even more unfortunate then. I hope you can somehow get it back shuki

Well, the good thing about it is, Shuki is right. Nobody could use it in his club and not get busted for it. It is one of a kind and there is no way of hiding that it is a stolen custom blade.

Which means, hopefully, he will get it back.

But seriously, Shuki, why don't you just get a Violin or an Acoustic (from Nittaku[emoji2]), or an OSP Virtuoso or Virtuoso Plus. OR THAT KIM
JUNG HOON blade. And, the Kim Jung Hoon blade really is pretty nice and right in line with what you would like from a blade. And since you have that discount hookup, that really might be a great blade for you.


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[Shuki]

Yep, it's time to get innerforce series blade

That's funny, I actually have an innerforce Zlc. (Not layer) upon looking at it, it has no dings that are big enough for my camera to catch them. Looks like I just scratched it with my fingernail more than an actual ding.

Wasn't a fan of Zlc though. If I went to trying carbon out again I'd probably try innerforce alc. (Not layer) but that would be hard to find now.

 

[Shuki]

Well, the good thing about it is, Shuki is right. Nobody could use it in his club and not get busted for it. It is one of a kind and there is no way of hiding that it is a stolen custom blade.

Which means, hopefully, he will get it back.

But seriously, Shuki, why don't you just get a Violin or an Acoustic (from Nittaku[emoji2]), or an OSP Virtuoso or Virtuoso Plus. OR THAT KIM
JUNG HOON blade. And, the Kim Jung Hoon blade really is pretty nice and right in line with what you would like from a blade. And since you have that discount hookup, that really might be a great blade for you.


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ive had a violin, acoustic, tenor, virtuoso off- in the past. Tried a kjh for about an hour. Nothing had as great feeling as my Ross blades. Even though they were just violins.

its alright, I suppose I was just ranting. I do have a backup of the blade after all. The weight is the exact same and everything. Just a different colored handle.

I havent been been posting lately and this blade getting taken reminded me of the forum and gave me something to write about more than anything. Although what happened feels very unfortunate, it's just an object. There are much worse things that could happen.

 

[laistrogian]

That's funny, I actually have an innerforce Zlc. (Not layer) upon looking at it, it has no dings that are big enough for my camera to catch them. Looks like I just scratched it with my fingernail more than an actual ding.

Wasn't a fan of Zlc though. If I went to trying carbon out again I'd probably try innerforce alc. (Not layer) but that would be hard to find now.

Any particular reason you dont like the layer series?

My IF is layer ZLC, was using TBS previously and I prefer the touch feeling of ZLC over ALC although ALC still feels better for looping.

 

[Shuki]

Any particular reason you dont like the layer series?

It's thicker. Still has good feeling, but not quite is good in my opinion.

 

[JeffM]

The trial happened today, and I am happy to say that I am in the team to compete with unis around Australia! I am also very glad that the trial is over, as I am the organizer of the trial (after taking over the role in the last week). I realized how inexperienced I am with organizing such event, as I underestimated how much time is required and what the best possible format it should be. It was a stressful task for me, as I have no idea how many players will turn up beforehand. I planned for a 8 hr sleep last night, don't think I actually fell asleep during the whole time, and this happened the day before yesterday as well. This doesn't really help with my performance in the trial, but I only played slightly worse than usual, so I did not lose to any challengers and was able to hold my spot. What I learned from this, is the experience in organizing such events, and I will be alot more appreciative towards people organizing table tennis events because I have experienced a small portion of the work and stress and skill it takes to do so.

 

[Ilia Minkin]

Well, it looks like you've earned the right to EJ and look for a replacement.

You might think about the Xiom Offensive S. Inexpensive and it plays great. 5 plies. Off- and it feels nice and crisp.

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I thought about Offensive S, but Xiom handles are a little bit small for me. I opted for Tibhar Stratus Powerwood, gotta try it on Friday with new Evolution EL-S

 

[chuckjordan2]

@shuki did you have any visiting players at your club? I can't believe a TT player would walk off with your paddle. You may want to put a sign (ie lost paddle) at your next session.

 

[chuckjordan2]

We occasionally have newby players at our Tuesday/Thursday club. I was hitting and providing advice for a returning women. I want to encourage people to play and learn, only it (negatively) impacts my practice (no high intensity practice). Last night this happened and since I was out-of-the-groove when I finished with her, I left. Kinda sucks losing a practice session, benefit is getting another player hooked on TT. We'll see how this impacts Saturday......

 

[baumschule]

We occasionally have newby players at our Tuesday/Thursday club. I was hitting and providing advice for a returning women. I want to encourage people to play and learn, only it (negatively) impacts my practice (no high intensity practice). Last night this happened and since I was out-of-the-groove when I finished with her, I left. Kinda sucks losing a practice session, benefit is getting another player hooked on TT. We'll see how this impacts Saturday......

Yeah I know exactly what you're talking about. It's always difficult to balance playing with and being nice to beginners with actually doing serious training. To a certain extend you can always focus on your technique or footwork regardless what your partners skill level is but if you want to improve there comes the point where you just have to polietly tell them that you want to play with someone else. For me thats usually after 20-30 minutes of playing with them but that obviously depends on how much time you have. If you're nice about it people tend to be very understanding in my experience.

 

[Shuki]

I don't know about practice sessions with lower level players being an issue once you get to a certain skill level. There's always something you can work on against any skill level. If you're perfect against a bad player able to hit 20/20 of a specific shot, then why aren't you doing a shot that you can't hit 20 times in a row. Do one that you wouldn't dare try against someone your own level so you can get those strokes better for the future.

How often do you do snake shots, or around the net shots, off the table chopping, fishing, looping, extreme angled placement, heavy grazing, flat hitting, strong service and service return, or even reaction gameplay. I suppose if you're doing all of these things without fail 100% of the time, then maybe you're right and playing higher level players is the only option for you. Or maybe you should be trying to do these things in new ways that you're less comfortable with.

Remember if the practice you're doing is really easy, then there's probably something else you should be practicing.

 

[baumschule]

I don't know about practice sessions with lower level players being an issue once you get to a certain skill level. There's always something you can work on against any skill level. If you're perfect against a bad player able to hit 20/20 of a specific shot, then why aren't you doing a shot that you can't hit 20 times in a row. Do one that you wouldn't dare try against someone your own level so you can get those strokes better for the future.

How often do you do snake shots, or around the net shots, off the table chopping, fishing, looping, extreme angled placement, heavy grazing, flat hitting, strong service and service return, or even reaction gameplay. I suppose if you're doing all of these things without fail 100% of the time, then maybe you're right and playing higher level players is the only option for you. Or maybe you should be trying to do these things in new ways that you're less comfortable with.

Remember if the practice you're doing is really easy, then there's probably something else you should be practicing.

I pretty much agree with you however i was talking more about beginners. I mean people who are not yet able to deal with any decent amount of speed, spin and/or good placement. If you do any stroke close to match play they would not be able to return them. I mean yes, I could try that ridiculous backhand sidespin loop around the net but me failing a bunch of times and they not being able to return it is not really fun for them so I would rather do something they enjoy even if that means I can't really practice.

 

[chuckjordan2]

@shuki, you really can't practice flicks or drives down the line with a beginner. It's counter-productive. I was practicing pushes, you know low to the net both deep and short, and she was hitting them into the net. That wasn't productive for her. Ended-up with flat hits.

Is this going to ruin my TT career? No. I just wanted a good practice for a tournament Saturday (hopefully as work is getting in the way).

Thinking about this more, I think I'll be placing either a hardbat or crappy old bat in my TT bag. Perfect for situations like this...

 

[Der_Echte]

CJ... I will be there tomorrow, so will Bogeyhunter and likely Duke Nuke Em

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[Shuki]

@shuki, you really can't practice flicks or drives down the line with a beginner. It's counter-productive. I was practicing pushes, you know low to the net both deep and short, and she was hitting them into the net. That wasn't productive for her. Ended-up with flat hits.

Is this going to ruin my TT career? No. I just wanted a good practice for a tournament Saturday (hopefully as work is getting in the way).

Thinking about this more, I think I'll be placing either a hardbat or crappy old bat in my TT bag. Perfect for situations like this...

I completely agree that if you have an upcoming tournament you should be trying to get tournament ready and playing with beginners probably wont be too good for you.

But why can't your practice flicks down the line against a beginner? If you go to the same spot enough, they'll eventually adjust to that hit and give you a decent ball back from it. I think when you practice with a beginner treat it like the reverse form of playing a good player. When playing a good player you try to find weaknesses and play to those. When you play a bad player try and find their strengths and play to them. It sounds like you found they were weak at pushes and you just continued to do them for a while.

But again, you're right about needing a higher level player if you have a tournament coming up.

 

[Archosaurus]

I completely agree that if you have an upcoming tournament you should be trying to get tournament ready and playing with beginners probably wont be too good for you.

But why can't your practice flicks down the line against a beginner? If you go to the same spot enough, they'll eventually adjust to that hit and give you a decent ball back from it. I think when you practice with a beginner treat it like the reverse form of playing a good player. When playing a good player you try to find weaknesses and play to those. When you play a bad player try and find their strengths and play to them. It sounds like you found they were weak at pushes and you just continued to do them for a while.

But again, you're right about needing a higher level player if you have a tournament coming up.

In my experience, playing with true beginners, they will adjust, but you will not get a quality ball back. It will take extensive coaching to teach them to return topspin back in a quality manner. So you don't know for sure just how good your shot was.

 

[Pricey 11]

I believe that in open practice playing less experienced players will benefit you footwork as they tend to play awkward returns and shots that can catch you out of position obviously the quality of spin and speed might not be as good but hey every little helps my coach says it always best if your are playing a weaker player work on what you need to improve the most and then move onto better players when the shot/technique becomes more efficient


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[Archosaurus]

I believe that in open practice playing less experienced players will benefit you footwork as they tend to play awkward returns and shots that can catch you out of position obviously the quality of spin and speed might not be as good but hey every little helps my coach says it always best if your are playing a weaker player work on what you need to improve the most and then move onto better players when the shot/technique becomes more efficient


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That's true. Playing inconsistent beginners has some good sides. As a developing player, I find it quite hard to keep a strict form against such players: there's no rhythm at all.